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09:19 < cirdan> !tinfoil chris01 
09:19 < Melian> chris01: If you really are going to be that vague, you should take off your tinfoil hat so that we could read your mind.
09:20 < chris01> cirdan: he?
09:21 < cirdan> :-)
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09:56 < Albie> Hi, all
09:59 < Albie> I need some fink help
10:00 < Albie> At the moment, my main problem is:
10:00 < Albie> [ambs@PowerBook Desktop]$ x
10:00 < Albie> dyld: Symbol not found: __cg_jpeg_resync_to_restart
10:00 < Albie>   Referenced from: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/Versions/A/ImageIO
10:00 < Albie>   Expected in: /sw/lib/libJPEG.dylib
10:01 < pogma> Albie: next time please paste using the pastebot... is this with a fink package?
10:02 < Albie> pogma, ok
10:02 < pogma> Is this a fink package that you are building?
10:02 < Albie> pogma, in that example is the Tiger X. but if I start gtk-demo, for instance, I get the same problem
10:03 < pogma> Albie: unset DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH
10:04 < Albie> ok... 
10:05 < pogma> you had it set, right?
10:05 < pogma> or some package thougtfully set it for you :/
10:06 < Albie> I've set it to compile my own programs.
10:07 < pogma> Shouldn't need to set DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH to compile stuff, and as you see, it breaks stuff :)
10:09 < Albie> pogma, it seems :)
10:09 < Albie> pogma, sorry about my ignorance, but how do I use pastebot?
10:09 < pogma> lisppaste: url?
10:09 < pogma> lisppaste: url
10:09 < lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste.
10:09 < lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste.
10:09 < Albie> ok
10:11 < pogma> lisppaste is in a number of channels on freenode, other people use pastebot.com. It avoids flooding the channel with stuff that others may or may not be interested in
10:11 < pogma> pastebin.com, sorry
10:12 < lisppaste> Albie pasted "Problem installing inkscape" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9012
10:13 < pogma> love the node exists error.
10:13 < Albie> :)
10:13 < pogma> there is a faq item on it somewhere, it has a workaround that usually works
10:13 < pogma> don't remember what it is
10:13 < Albie> so, I'm not doing anything wrong... that's good.
10:14 < Albie> it seems there is the same problem on the fink mailing list archives
10:14 < pogma> you'll see a lot of node exists errors in the archives :(
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10:40 < Albie> kane-xs, nice to see known people around :)
10:46 < lisppaste> Albie pasted "Compiling gtkmm... problems" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9015
10:46 < Albie> and, more problems :(
10:47 < pogma> Albie: what does ls -al /sw/fink/dists say?
10:48 < pogma> 'cause that really should be g++-3.3
10:48 < Albie> 10.4-transitional
10:48 < pogma> hmm
10:48 < pogma> let me check
10:51 < pogma> crap, it is going to take a little while to reproduce
10:52 < pogma> can you lisppaste the whole buildlog for that package, including the configure stage
10:53 < Albie> not sure, because it is enourmous.
10:54 < pogma> well, in configure, does it detect g++ or g++-3.3 ?
10:58 < Albie> Paste too large. :)
10:59 < lisppaste> Albie pasted "Full gtkmm configure log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9016
11:00 < pogma> okay, looks broken
11:00 < pogma> let me reproduce and try to fix
11:01 < Albie> thanks.
11:01 < pogma> might not be tonight though, already tired and past midnight :)
11:02 < Albie> hehe
11:02 < Albie> no problem
11:04 < Albie> tomorrow I'll try to update fink and reinstall it
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11:09 < miga> Hi everybody.
11:10 < Albie> hi
11:10 < miga> Does someone notice a problem with cvs commits today?
11:10 < miga> Hi Albie.
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13:14 < syamajala> are there any bins. for tiger yet
13:15 < syamajala> or do u still have to compile everything from source if you use tiger and fink
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13:51 < micahf> hey does anyone else get errors with opengl when porting to mac os x?
13:52 < micahf> check #flood for my error
13:52 < Feanor> lisppaste url
13:52 < lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste.
13:53 < micahf> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Jrr0Ef34.html
13:54 < Feanor> add -lobjc -lGL
13:55 < micahf> add?
13:55 < micahf> to make?
13:59 < Feanor> to whatever's generating that command line
14:00 < micahf> ah in the compile script?
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16:44 < tehdely> howdy friends
16:44 < tehdely> any fixes in cvs for the dpkg compilation failures with xcode 2.1 yet
16:48 < RangerRick> I thought so, what does selfupdate say?  ;)
16:50 < tehdely> well i am bootstrapping from the 0.8 tarball right now
16:50 < tehdely> can't selfupdate until i have fink installed
16:50 < tehdely> heh
16:50 < tehdely> fails here, known issue with new gcc:
16:50 < tehdely> In file included from dump.c:37:
16:50 < tehdely> /opt/fink/src/dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-201/dpkg-1.10.21/include/parsedump.h:33: error: array type has incomplete element type
16:50 < tehdely> i saw some discussion on the lists but no mention of a fix yet
16:51 < RangerRick> well, it wouldn't be in the 0.8 tarball
16:51 < RangerRick> it would be fixed in the tree
16:51 < RangerRick> try installing from the binary installer
16:51 < RangerRick> and then selfupdate
16:52 < tehdely> gross :P
16:52 < RangerRick> why?
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16:52 < tehdely> things never seem to work right when i use the binary install
16:52 < tehdely> never have figured out why
16:52 < tehdely> i've been bootstrapping from source for years now
16:52 < RangerRick> why build when you get the exact same thing from the binary install?
16:52 < RangerRick> if you have problems with the binary install, we'd appreciate bug reports  ;)
16:53 < tehdely> does the binary install let me specify custom paths
16:53 < tehdely> i always install in /opt/fink
16:54 < RangerRick> I believe so; it will make a symlink to /sw though
16:54 < tehdely> would i be fine copying over an existing fink installation from another 10.4 machine
16:55 < RangerRick> if it is fixed, you can bootstrap from source by checking out fink from cvs too
16:55 < RangerRick> yeah, that would be fine too
16:55 < tehdely> i can't find cvs instructions on the website
16:55 < tehdely> am i looking in the wrong place
16:55 < RangerRick> in resources, on the front page: CVS (browse online, access instructions)
16:56 < tehdely> so I am an idiot, then ;)
16:56 < RangerRick> it's like any other sourceforge project, too, so you can check it out by looking at the instructions on the cvs sesction of the fink project page
16:57 < tehdely>  dpkg.info	 1.2	 30 hours	 dmrrsn	 fixes for gcc 4 and xcode 2.1
16:57 < tehdely> ok good :)
16:57 < tehdely> is there anyway to bootstrap directly from unstable sources
16:57 < tehdely> or do i have to bootstrap stable, then enable unstable, selfupdate
16:58 < tehdely> as i have always done
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17:06 < RangerRick> tehdely: I would assume you just check out "fink" from cvs, and he made the change there
17:06 < RangerRick> it's just like getting the tarball
17:07 < tehdely> good, because this copy of /opt is not going so well
17:07 < tehdely> getting lots of messages about files tha tdon't exist that do, in fact, exist
17:08 < tehdely> :P
17:11 < Bart_> hi RangerRick how are you
17:15 < Bart_> did ettercap in unstable (ver. 0.7.2-4) working under 10.4?
17:16 < RangerRick> Bart_: alright
17:16 < RangerRick> not tried ettercap
17:16 < Bart_> i tried now
17:16 < Bart_> i tell you then
17:16  * RangerRick is working on getting the kde4 branch working with qt/mac  :)
17:16 < Bart_> woot... i thinked you stoped that project..
17:16 < RangerRick> I know nothing about it, so you're welcome to tell me, but it's not gonna do much  :)
17:16 < Bart_> but nice to hear it goes on!
17:16 < RangerRick> I paused, until they started working on kde4
17:16 < Bart_> k
17:16 < RangerRick> now they're working on kde4
17:16 < RangerRick> and 
17:16 < RangerRick> a who
17:17 < RangerRick> a whole bunch of stuff that was really ugly in kde3 is cleaned up for non-x11 now
17:17 < RangerRick> it's looking pretty good so far, at least in kdelibs
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17:18 < Bart_> some screen shots?
17:18 < RangerRick> not anywhere close yet  :)
17:18 < RangerRick> nothing to get a shot of until kdebase  :)
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17:19 < RangerAway> party time, ciao
17:25 < Bart_> cya
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17:46 < tehdely> RangerAway: i copied fink over from the other machien using pax.  seems to be working great
17:46 < tehdely> has anyone here done anything crazy like using an nfs export to share debs among multiple macs
17:47 < tehdely> Checking system... unknown-apple-darwin8.1.0
17:47 < tehdely> This system is unrecognized and not supported by Fink.
17:47 < tehdely> hmm maybe not :P
17:50 < tehdely> getting that on both machines, actually
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19:31 < pogma> heh, my package installs directly into %p because I couldn't figure out how to make it go into %i
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20:31 < tehdely> Hello friends.
20:31 < tehdely> Setting up fink (0.24.7-21) ...
20:31 < tehdely> Checking system... unknown-apple-darwin8.1.0
20:31 < tehdely> This system is unrecognized and not supported by Fink.
20:31 < tehdely> This is after a selfupdate fram an otherwise functional fink install.
20:31 < tehdely> system is 10.4.1
20:31 < cirdan> unstable tree?
20:31 < tehdely> xcode 2.1
20:31 < tehdely> yes.
20:32 < cirdan> you installed gnu coreutils or something?
20:32 < tehdely> actually I did
20:32 < tehdely> hmm :)
20:32 < cirdan> you have a bad uname
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20:32 < cirdan> the latest coreutils should recognise ppc
20:32 < tehdely> i installed it outside of fink
20:32 < cirdan> but for now, use the orig uname
20:32 < tehdely> good think i staged + packaged :P
20:33 < cirdan> the latest upstream should have the needed patch
20:33 < cirdan> anyway, thats the problem
20:33 < tehdely> tehswap:/ root# gzip -dc opt/construct/package/package-coreutils-5.2.1.tgz | tar -tf - | xargs rm 
20:33 < tehdely> :D
20:33  * tehdely selfupdate again
20:34 < cirdan> yeah, but where did u install too?
20:34 < cirdan> if just killed your system if u overwrote the system stuff
20:34 < cirdan> hey drm 
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20:34 < tehdely> cirdan: /opt/my
20:34 < cirdan> hmm
20:34 < tehdely> i have /opt/my, /opt/fink, /opt/dports
20:34 < tehdely> heh
20:34 < cirdan> fink shouldnt see that...
20:35 < tehdely> cirdan: it doesn't
20:35 < tehdely> but i prepended it to teh path
20:35 < tehdely> so when it runs uname, it gets that one
20:35 < cirdan> fink cleans the path
20:35 < tehdely> in any case, removing coreutils fixed the problem
20:35 < cirdan> hmm
20:35 < pogma> cirdan: no, it doesn't "clean" it, iirc it just prepends /sw/bin and /sw/sbin
20:35 < cirdan> fink should not have seen anything in /opt
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20:35 < tehdely> are you talking about fink, the script itself
20:35 < tehdely> or fink's environment script
20:35 < pogma> cirdan: so it will still see the other stuff in the path
20:36 < cirdan> pogma: really? i couldv'e sworn it cleaned the $PATH
20:36 < tehdely> fink's environment script just prepends to PATH and MANPATH
20:36 < tehdely> among other things
20:36  * pogma goes to check
20:37 < pogma> yeah, just prepends, it also prepends /usr/bin/ and /usr/sbin/ though so it shouldn't see his /opt/my/bin/uname
20:37 < cirdan> ah
20:37 < cirdan> yeah
20:37 < pogma> ah! misread.
20:37 < pogma> /usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:
20:37 < cirdan> i see, didnt notice the $save_path before
20:37 < pogma> no /usr/bin/
20:38 < pogma> no /bin/ either
20:38 < cirdan> $ENV{PATH} = "$basepath/sbin:$basepath/bin:". "$bsbase/sbin:$bsbase/bin:". $save_path;
20:38 < pogma> Mm, I'm looking in fink.in
20:38 < tehdely> the only possible explanation at this point, is
20:38 < cirdan> bootstrap.pm :-)
20:38 < tehdely> sunspots.
20:39 < cirdan> maybe we should force fink paths, system paths, $save_path
20:40 < cirdan> but RR did tell me the ppc processor patch made it into upstream for coreutils
20:40 < cirdan> anyway, hopping in the shower, just got back from the beach :-D
20:42 < cirdan> anyway, tehdely 5.3 ha sbeen out a while now :-)
20:42 < cirdan> for coreutils
20:46 < tehdely> well then I know what I must do
20:46 < tehdely> heh
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21:52 < drm> hey cirdan
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