--- Log opened Sat Jun 18 00:00:53 2005 00:59 -!- Feanor [~astrange@mp1-249-132.dialup.emory.edu] has joined #fink 01:10 -!- KraMer [~mark@adsl-70-240-193-143.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #fink ["Leaving"] 01:13 -!- pani [~jdaniel@112.Red-80-25-248.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #fink [] 01:27 < statico> vasi: I _use_ Gnome. 01:27 < vasi> yeah, i meant the devs :-) 01:28 < statico> Okay. Wasn't sure. 01:48 -!- dmacks [~dmacks@203-137.dialup.cloud9.net] has joined #fink 02:04 -!- Retart [~Retart@adsl-64-172-182-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 02:22 < dmacks> vasi: You should certainly know by now that "any gnome-y...devs" is essentially an empty set. 02:22 < vasi> was worth a try :-) 02:23 * dmacks and jfm are making slow progress updating some pkgs for it. 02:23 -!- Murrito [~neeri@c-24-7-119-74.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #fink 02:33 -!- mattimustang [~mpf@ppp11-174.lns1.syd3.internode.on.net] has left #fink [] 02:42 -!- dmacks [~dmacks@dmacks.active.supporter.pdpc] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 02:58 -!- JesseW [~chatzilla@JesseW.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #fink 03:02 -!- Murrito [~neeri@c-24-7-119-74.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:03 -!- baba [~baba@YahooBB220041001026.bbtec.net] has joined #fink 03:10 -!- JesseW [~chatzilla@JesseW.student.supporter.pdpc] has left #fink [] 03:22 -!- Bart_ [~hideout@pD95DFE81.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #fink 03:26 < cianhughes> Melian: karma cirdan 03:26 < Melian> cirdan has neutral karma 03:46 -!- Bart_ [~hideout@pD95DFE81.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Computer going to sleep..."] 04:22 -!- broeken [~broeken@5353014C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #fink 04:28 -!- Retart [~Retart@adsl-64-172-182-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:36 -!- broeken [~broeken@5353014C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [] 04:46 -!- vasi [~vasi@modemcable214.145-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 04:46 -!- sid77 [~sid77@ppp-119-160.30-151.libero.it] has joined #fink 04:50 -!- vasi [~vasi@modemcable214.145-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #fink 05:06 -!- kane_ [~kane@perl.xs4all.nl] has joined #fink 05:07 -!- ottoaim [~ottoaim@h-64-105-104-202.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:10 -!- Feanor [~astrange@feanor.developer.opendarwin] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 05:10 -!- emp [~emp@67-42-224-94.blng.qwest.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 05:19 -!- sid77 [~sid77@ppp-119-160.30-151.libero.it] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:26 -!- Feanor [~astrange@mp1-248-156.dialup.emory.edu] has joined #fink 06:43 -!- ringerc [~craig@dsl-202-72-144-62.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #fink 07:49 -!- baba [~baba@YahooBB220041001026.bbtec.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:54 -!- vasi [~vasi@modemcable214.145-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 08:32 -!- Feanor [~astrange@feanor.developer.opendarwin] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:56 -!- Albie [~ambs@bl5-162-227.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #fink 09:26 < pogma> bbraun: How totally bored are you? 09:26 < bbraun> hehe. why's that? 09:26 < bbraun> some secret plan? 09:26 < pogma> bbraun: You could have pretty much carte-blanche to get packages from submitters into a testing tree 09:27 < pogma> and then auto-move those to unstable after a set period 09:27 < knghtbrd> I love secret plans! 09:27 < knghtbrd> what're we testing? =) 09:27 < pogma> knghtbrd: bbraun said he was bored :) 09:28 < pogma> knghtbrd: I'm trying to get his energy 09:28 < bbraun> yeah, I'm not sure how much even I trust random packages uploaded over the intarweb, which is why I wanted to restrict it to the package maintainers (I suppose anyone with a commit bit would be fine too). 09:29 < pogma> bbraun: my secret plan was to have somehting email me the packages that pass auto tests 09:29 < knghtbrd> I have a few energy-stealing ideas myself 09:29 < pogma> bbraun: I eyeball and reply gpg-signed that it looks okay 09:29 < pogma> bbraun: but that has too many "I"s in it 09:30 < bbraun> hehe 09:30 < bbraun> I dunno, I'm still skeptical. there's too much stuff people could insert into packages that eyeballing wouldn't catch 09:30 < knghtbrd> like ... 09:30 < knghtbrd> .mac server =) 09:31 < pogma> bbraun: thus the "testing" tree 09:31 < pogma> bbraun: only for the brave and foolish 09:31 < knghtbrd> burn .iso for your platform (PPC or IA32 being likely candidates), boot it up, spend 5 minutes setting it up, and you have a .mac server independent of Apple 09:31 < pogma> hopefully enough fools to catch the bad packages 09:32 < knghtbrd> target it as an intranet sort of solution 09:32 < bbraun> although, there are a couple of solutions. many fink people already have od accounts, could auth against that (and give new ones to people who want them). Also, could have people sign their packages and upload their keys and such. 09:34 < pogma> anyway, if you are truly bored... :-) 09:35 < bbraun> hmm. it's actually sounding not that hard. The most annoying thing would be keeping the system's fink up to date with the most recent validation tests. 09:35 < bbraun> if there were a completely non-interactive selfupdate I could do it from cron 09:36 < knghtbrd> meh, nobody likes my lunatic plan. =( 09:38 < bbraun> alright, I'm going to go offline for a bit and think about this for a bit. 09:48 -!- baba [~baba@YahooBB220041001026.bbtec.net] has joined #fink 09:48 -!- baba [~baba@YahooBB220041001026.bbtec.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:51 -!- zizban [~chris@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 09:52 < Albie> anybody knows why 'correct' should not be used as a function name on C code under Tiger? 09:54 < pogma> Albie: I think you may be mistaken 09:54 < Albie> pogma, I think so 09:55 < Albie> there shold be a library I'm linking with that defined it 09:55 < Albie> pogma, btw, did you fix the sodipodi installation? 09:56 < pogma> Albie: what? the extensions? bug upstream 09:56 < Albie> pogma, if I remember correctly it was a problem detecting gcc. 09:58 < pogma> worked for me last I tried, let me try again 09:58 < Albie> s/sodipodi/inskcape/ 09:58 < Albie> sorry 09:58 < Albie> :-) 09:59 < Albie> I'll try to compile it now 09:59 < pogma> well, sodipodi is dead, should probably drop the package 10:00 < pogma> Lauris said he no longer had time 10:00 < Albie> right. and inkscape is better 10:00 < Albie> (although inkscape is C++, bah) 10:02 < pogma> the way they forked still bothers me 10:02 < Albie> I do not know the details... 10:04 < pogma> I'll not bore you with my interpretation of events :) 10:04 < pogma> suffice to say, I think they could have tried a little harder before forking 10:05 < pogma> they will disagree, of course 10:05 < Albie> hehe 10:06 < Albie> I think the same about galeon/epiphany 10:09 < zizban> am I misdsing something or does a clean install of tiger not include stuffit? 10:09 < pogma> thats right 10:09 < zizban> ok 10:09 < zizban> it's not just me then :) 10:10 < pogma> sorry, one handed typing, slow, have beer in other hand, shift key is hard to press 10:10 < zizban> gotcha :) 10:11 < pogma> saturday night, my one day without work is coming :) 10:11 < zizban> woot! 10:13 < pogma> zizban: haven't seen you in a while, I think, how are you? 10:13 < zizban> yes, it's been a while 10:13 < zizban> I'm fine 10:14 < zizban> how life in Japan? 10:14 -!- emp [~emp@67-42-224-94.blng.qwest.net] has joined #fink 10:15 < pogma> hot, maybe water shortage this year, it simply has not rained this current "rainy season" 10:15 < zizban> ouch\ 10:26 < Albie> pogma, where are you? (geographically) 10:27 < Albie> Japan, ok. 10:27 < Albie> stupid me 10:27 < Albie> problems with water in Portugal as well. 10:28 < zizban> not here in the great northeast of the United States 10:35 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #fink 10:40 < Albie> pogma, it is gtkmm the one I still can't compile :-( 10:41 < pogma> Albie: on 10.3 or 10.4? 10:41 < Albie> 10.4 10:41 < pogma> fails in configure? 10:41 < Albie> no. let me paste 10:41 < pogma> it is building here, not complete yet though 10:41 < pogma> p.pogma.org 10:42 < pogma> lisppaste: url? 10:42 < lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste. 10:42 < pogma> or there 10:42 < lisppaste> Albie pasted "gtkmm" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9203 10:43 < pogma> and you are at the latest glib and glibmm ? 10:44 < pogma> fink rebuild glibmm, maybe 10:44 < Albie> hmms 10:44 < pogma> sorry glibmm2.4 10:45 < Albie> update-all does not do a thing. 10:45 < Albie> let try to rebuild glibmm2.4 then 10:50 < lisppaste> Albie annotated #9203 with "glimm...." at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9203#1 10:51 < Albie> glibmm is failing as well :-| 10:52 < pogma> hmm, we have a problem 10:52 < pogma> looks like a number of your c++ packages were compiled with the wrong compiler 10:53 < pogma> or something 10:53 < pogma> hmm 10:53 < zizban> ooops 10:54 < Albie> well... I can rm /sw and start again. 10:54 < pogma> gtkmm2.4 just rebuilt fine here 10:54 < Albie> (but not know) 10:54 < pogma> that sucks though, did you upgrade from 10.3 10:54 < pogma> ? 10:55 < Albie> yes. at least I tried to do that 10:55 < pogma> That is something that really should work 10:55 < pogma> but often doesn't :( 10:55 < zizban> I guess I better make sure my package still works in Tiger 10:56 < pogma> zizban: if you haven't had mail from msachs it probably compiles :) 10:56 < zizban> cool :) 10:57 < pogma> msachs is my hero 10:57 -!- kane_ [~kane@perl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:57 < zizban> mine too, now :) 10:57 < Albie> pogma, so, I should rm /sw and retry, right? 10:58 < pogma> Albie: unfortunately, that is probably best, yes 10:58 < Albie> ok 10:58 < pogma> makes me sad 10:58 < Albie> not too much cost involved at the moment. 10:58 < Albie> better to do that now than later :) 10:58 < Albie> btw, anyone up to make perl 5.8.7 package? :) 10:58 < zizban> I periodicaly do that, to test packages for developers and contributors 10:59 < zizban> and my package works on 10.4, as expected 11:01 -!- cianhughes [~cian@cian.ws] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:02 -!- akh_laptop [~akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #fink 11:04 < akh_laptop> !alicekill lazy, whiny users 11:04 < akh_laptop> damn--a lart isn't sufficient for me. 11:04 < zizban> my my are we angry this moring? :) 11:05 < Albie> why does INSTALL text on 0.8.0 says 0.7.1.? O:-) 11:05 < zizban> ouch 11:06 < akh_laptop> Albie: Clearly the release manager forgot to edit it. 11:06 < Albie> hehe 11:06 < akh_laptop> zizban: check the i18n logs 11:06 < zizban> fire him 11:06 < zizban> akh_laptop: oh if I must :) 11:06 -!- KraMer [~mark@adsl-70-240-193-143.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #fink 11:07 < akh_laptop> zizban: can't fire him--he's got tenure. 11:07 < akh_laptop> ;-)_ 11:07 < zizban> damn 11:07 < zizban> heh 11:08 < zizban> I remember back in the day people whining about why fink didn't have KDE 11:08 < zizban> never minding the fact it was a huge challenge to get working 11:09 < akh_laptop> vasi said he got a message claiming that RangerRIck was in charge of a conspiracy to keep Fink from having an unstable bindist. 11:09 < akh_laptop> That's one for the tinfoil hat brigade. ;-) 11:10 < zizban> I'd say 11:10 < zizban> heh 11:11 < Albie> ok, bootstraping... 11:12 * akh_laptop was a bit sarcastic offlist in my reply to that message. 11:12 < zizban> I bet :) 11:12 < akh_laptop> I did suggest using the "print version" to search via the browser since we don't have a search feature. 11:13 < zizban> heh 11:13 < akh_laptop> That's a legitimate issue--not exactly what was raised. 11:14 < zizban> true 11:14 < akh_laptop> biab--my wife's at the salon and forgot her wallet. 11:31 -!- zizban [~chris@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:51 < Albie> bootstrap done 11:52 < Albie> now, how do I change the config file to use unstable... let me search 11:53 < cirdan> !unstable 11:54 < Albie> ok, self updating 11:56 < Albie> and time to go 11:56 -!- Albie [~ambs@bl5-162-227.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:00 -!- Macrobyte [~macrobyte@pcp06495808pcs.nstnig01.ct.comcast.net] has joined #fink 12:04 -!- Macrobyte [~macrobyte@pcp06495808pcs.nstnig01.ct.comcast.net] has left #fink [] 12:09 -!- Laz45 [~Laz45@199.131.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #fink 12:09 < Laz45> fink 12:09 < Laz45> knif 12:10 -!- eno-away is now known as eno 12:11 < Laz45> fikn 12:11 < Laz45> fnki 12:12 < Laz45> inkf 12:12 < Laz45> nkif 12:12 < cirdan> !lart Laz45 12:12 * Melian steals Laz45's mojo 12:14 < Laz45> where can i get mencoder? 12:24 < cirdan> in mplayer? 12:41 -!- eno is now known as eno-away 12:45 -!- xhrl [~ThomasW@24.80.39.250] has joined #fink 12:45 -!- Feanor [~astrange@mp1-248-156.dialup.emory.edu] has joined #fink 12:51 -!- akh_laptop [~akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [] 12:52 -!- Iron_Spork [~ronwalf@138.88.110.164] has joined #fink 13:08 -!- ronwalf [~ronwalf@138.88.110.164] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:12 -!- ringerc [~craig@dsl-202-72-144-62.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit ["Whoops, someone let the magic smoke out!"] 13:13 -!- xhrl [~ThomasW@24.80.39.250] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:25 -!- Laz45 [~Laz45@199.131.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit ["The computer fell asleep"] 13:26 -!- Laz45 [~Laz45@199.131.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #fink 13:58 -!- Iron_Spork [~ronwalf@138.88.110.164] has left #fink [] 14:01 -!- dsias [~dsias@68-235-246-26.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 14:03 -!- Laz45 [~Laz45@199.131.202.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit ["The computer fell asleep"] 14:28 -!- Retart [~Retart@adsl-64-172-182-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 14:32 < Retart> Hey, right now I'm in XDarwin running in fullscreen mode... But the apple+option+a shortcut isn't taking me back... 14:36 < Feanor> xorg? 14:37 -!- Retart [~Retart@adsl-64-172-182-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:42 < theid_away> anyone know if 10.4.2 fixes the dlsym issue? 14:51 < cirdan> Feanor: u wanna take over mplayer? 14:51 < cirdan> :-) 14:51 < cirdan> since you use it and know it as weel as i do 14:51 < Feanor> i'd never be able to test it, since i only use cvs versions 14:52 < Feanor> besides it has a lot of weird dependencies 14:53 < cirdan> yeah 14:53 < cirdan> it does 14:53 < cirdan> and you can make cvs snapshopts :-) 14:54 < Feanor> what i do need to do for mplayer is make another patch to the AO 14:54 < Feanor> surround doesn't work anymore... if you're using headphones it will play the first two of the 6 channels as left and right 14:55 < Feanor> even though they're left front and left back or whatever 15:00 < theid_away> Feanor: did you ever find that missing patch? 15:01 < Feanor> yes 15:01 < Feanor> it wasn't as good as i remembered it being, and it seems to trigger bugs in AUHAL/mplayer that make the system freeze 15:04 -!- theid_away [~theid@207.177.103.77] has quit [] 15:16 < cirdan> whee 15:18 -!- xhrl [~ThomasW@24.80.39.250] has joined #fink 15:27 -!- Albie [~ambs@bl5-162-227.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #fink 15:33 < cirdan> !seen dmacks 15:33 < Melian> i haven't seen 'dmacks', cirdan 15:36 -!- Melian [~blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit ["adios amigos"] 15:37 -!- Melian [~blootbot@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 15:37 < cirdan> !seen dmacks 15:37 < Melian> dmacks <~dmacks@dmacks.active.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #fink, 22h 44m 2s ago, saying: 'un-pong. /me -> coffee'. 15:42 -!- Retart [~Retart@adsl-64-172-182-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 15:57 -!- Retart [~Retart@adsl-64-172-182-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:10 -!- Retart [~Retart@adsl-64-172-182-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #fink 16:13 -!- dmacks [~dmacks@203-137.dialup.cloud9.net] has joined #fink 16:15 < dmacks> 35 minutes...not bad. 16:21 -!- Albie [~ambs@bl5-162-227.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:35 < dmacks> Looks like we need a FAQ for Fink-0.8.0 symlinks 16:42 -!- Retart [~Retart@adsl-64-172-182-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:53 < cirdan> ? 16:53 < cirdan> 35 mins? 16:54 < cirdan> dmacks: can u look at my branch real quick? i seem to have a perl error 16:54 < dmacks> The conjuring. 16:54 < cirdan> oh 16:54 < cirdan> my match isn't matching 16:54 < dmacks> One moment...gotta cvs-update 16:54 -!- bkn [~bkn@c-66-30-12-210.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #fink 16:57 < dmacks> What file/line? 16:59 < bkn> is there a command in fink that will allow me to build a package from source and have fink not delete the compiled source tree? (so i can play with the source afterwards and run make install manually) 16:59 < dmacks> According to 'man fink', there are several --keep-* flags that might be of interest. 16:59 < Feanor> fink --keep-build-dir build x 16:59 < bkn> cool! found them, thanks! 17:03 < bkn> none of that is listen with fink --help, i didn't even think about the man page. 17:04 < bkn> s/listen/listed/ 17:05 < dmacks> heh. 'fink --help' was designed as a quick summary of the most basic and common options only. Hence the "See the fink(8) manual page for a complete list" note at the end of it. 17:07 < bkn> i guess the makes sense. 17:13 < cirdan> dmacks: checkDistribution 17:13 < cirdan> in my branch 17:13 < cirdan> i have it so it should be matching 10.4 in 10.4-transitional 17:14 < dmacks> What. File. And. Line? 17:14 < cirdan> if (get_system_version() ~= /^\Q$distribution\E.*/) 17:14 < cirdan> Services.pm is the sub 17:15 < dmacks> Try putting a print in there to make sure get_system_verison() is returning what you think it is. 17:16 < dmacks> You don't need the ".*" in the regex...a regex only checks "does the part that was given match?" not "does this pattern match the whole string?" 17:16 < cirdan> hmm 17:16 < dmacks> (also check that $distribution is what you think it is) 17:19 < cirdan> hmm 17:20 < cirdan> both are correct 17:21 < cirdan> odd 17:21 < cirdan> do i need the ^\Q \E? 17:21 < cirdan> cause trying to match 10.4 17:22 < dmacks> It's safer to have it, in case someone has an OS X 1004.0.1 seed 17:22 < cirdan> line 2144 in PkgVersion.pm also looks correct 17:22 < cirdan> oss 17:22 < cirdan> odd 17:22 < cirdan> brb 17:24 < dmacks> You should put a comment in checkDistribution indicating what its return value will mean. i.e., is it "true: the thing is okay" or is it "true: there is a problem with it"? 17:25 < dmacks> You also don't want the our() in there. 17:30 -!- bkn [~bkn@c-66-30-12-210.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:14 -!- dmacks is now known as dmacks_away 18:17 < cirdan> dmacks_away: yes i do, as it didn't work with 'my' 18:18 < cirdan> msachs or someone suggested our 18:18 -!- Bart_ [~hideout@pD95DF80C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #fink 18:50 < dmacks_away> cirdan: I don't think you want our or my or local or anything. use() inserts its arguments into the caller's namespace no? 18:52 < dmacks_away> Note how SelfUpdate.pm does it. 18:52 -!- dmacks [~dmacks@203-137.dialup.cloud9.net] has joined #fink 19:02 -!- ottoaim [~ottoaim@h-64-105-104-202.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #fink 19:03 -!- emp [~emp@67-42-224-94.blng.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 14400 seconds] 19:03 -!- Feanor [~astrange@feanor.developer.opendarwin] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:38 < cirdan> dmacks: removed it, but still think's checkdist is returning 1 19:55 -!- dsias [~dsias@68-235-246-26.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:00 -!- Macrobyte [~macrobyte@pcp06495808pcs.nstnig01.ct.comcast.net] has joined #fink 20:02 -!- xhrl [~ThomasW@24.80.39.250] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:11 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [] 20:11 < dmacks> cirdan: What are your get_system_version() and $distribution values? 20:12 * dmacks has 10.3 and 10.3, and checkDistribution is returning 0. 20:17 < dmacks> (package building works in that case) If I set 10.4 in fink.conf, pkg building crashes as expected. 20:31 < cirdan> 10.4 and 10.4-transitional 20:32 -!- Macrobyte [~macrobyte@pcp06495808pcs.nstnig01.ct.comcast.net] has quit [] 20:33 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #fink 20:36 < cirdan> dmacks: this is the first time i tested it not being on 10.3 :-) 20:37 < dmacks> Wait, you're doing "10.4"=~/^\Q10.4-transitional\E/ or vice-versa? 20:39 < cirdan> umm 20:39 < cirdan> yes 20:39 < cirdan> the one youe said 20:39 < cirdan> oops 20:39 < cirdan> i got it reversed :-) 20:40 < dmacks> heh:) 20:40 < cirdan> right? 20:41 < dmacks> The syntax is "STRING=~/PATTERN/ searches for PATTERN within STRING" 20:41 < cirdan> ok 20:41 * cirdan fixes... 20:53 -!- mdmonk [~mr_twitch@64.81.110.110] has joined #fink 20:54 < cirdan> dmacks: Global symbol "$distribution" requires explicit package name at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Services.pm line 1282. 20:56 < dmacks> This is Services.pm 1.158.2.13? 21:01 < cirdan> yes 21:01 < cirdan> well, just changed to 1.158.2.14 21:04 -!- vasi [~vasi@modemcable214.145-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #fink 21:04 < cirdan> that error was after setting up package fink-mirror... 21:06 < dmacks> works for me 21:07 < dmacks> vasi: Do my chown fixes make sense? 21:07 < vasi> uh, i dunno, lemme see them 21:07 < cirdan> odd... 21:08 < cirdan> maybe it a perl 5.8.6 thing? 21:08 < vasi> does 'chowname :mygroup' actually work? 21:08 < dmacks> vasi: it's documented to work. 21:08 < cirdan> i believe so 21:08 < dmacks> cirdan: Wait...just found something... 21:08 < vasi> ok, just never seen it before 21:09 < cirdan> vasi: the :? 21:09 < vasi> yeah 21:09 < cirdan> right, the . is depreceated now 21:09 < cirdan> dmacks: although, why not just use chgrp? 21:09 < cirdan> oh, your changing both, nm 21:09 < cirdan> vasi has a misplaced space :-) 21:10 < dmacks> chowname allows the caller to not bother doing the uid/gid lookup:) 21:10 < cirdan> chowname? 21:10 < cirdan> chown is fine for that 21:10 < cirdan> i use it all the time 21:10 < vasi> missing space? 21:11 < dmacks> We're talking perl not shell, cirdan. 21:11 < cirdan> chown -R chris:admin 21:11 < cirdan> oh 21:11 < cirdan> ;-) 21:11 < cirdan> oops 21:11 < cirdan> didn't realize that 21:12 < dmacks> Maybe it's a problem with circular use() between Config and Services? 21:12 < vasi> changes look good 21:13 < dmacks> Cool. Thanks:) 21:13 < vasi> we might want to refactor a bit 21:13 < vasi> what's the problem cirdan is having? 21:14 < cirdan> vasi: using the $distribution from Config object 21:14 < cirdan> works before the package build, but not after 21:14 < vasi> hm 21:14 < vasi> that's strange 21:14 < cirdan> Services.pm, 1.158.2.14 21:14 < dmacks> Try moving checkDistribution into Config.pm (since it's a config check, not a generally-useful service:) 21:15 < cirdan> using 'our' helped 21:15 < vasi> in what way does it not work? 21:15 < cirdan> dmacks: well, it is used in a few places 21:15 < vasi> (ie: what does happen?) 21:15 < cirdan> dmacks: Global symbol "$distribution" requires explicit package name 21:15 < cirdan> at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Services.pm line 1282. 21:15 < dmacks> our() rarely does what you want. It's good at covering up PEBKAC though 21:15 -!- Feanor [~astrange@mp1-248-24.dialup.emory.edu] has joined #fink 21:15 < cirdan> line b4 that is use Fink::Config($distribution) i believe 21:16 < cirdan> dmacks: hehe 21:17 < cirdan> i'll have to refactor it later, or tomorrow 21:17 < vasi> why don't you just require Config and refer to it as $Config::distribution? 21:17 < vasi> that looks safer to me 21:17 < cirdan> about to go over gf house 21:17 < vasi> have fun :-) 21:17 < cirdan> vasi: ok, but it seemed like i didn't need to 21:17 < cirdan> oh, i will 21:17 < cirdan> i plan on falling asleep during some movie we'll watch :-) 21:18 < cirdan> lemony snicket's i didnt make it to the opening credits, eyes closed when she hit play movie ;-) 21:18 < cirdan> woke up after it was over 21:20 < dmacks> Yeah, it's a circularity problem, and moving checkDistribution into Config fixes it. 21:21 < cirdan> weird. ok 21:23 < vasi> btw, there's no point putting 'use' inside a method 21:23 < cirdan> ok, just copied from somewhere else :-) 21:24 < dmacks> A use() happens at program compile-time, which is well before the sub is run. So when Config is compiled it loads Services, which is compiled and loads Config. But the Config use(Services) happens before the declaration of $distribution in that file. 21:24 < dmacks> So when Services is being compiled, $Config::distribution does not yet exist. 21:25 < dmacks> (it's probably more convoluted than that, but that's the idea I think) 21:25 < vasi> yeah 21:26 < vasi> circular use = bad :-) 21:26 -!- dreamind [~dreamind@C2107.campino.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [] 21:31 < cirdan> 2 21:31 < cirdan> odd... 21:31 < cirdan> configure: configuring in gettext-runtime 21:31 < cirdan> configure: running /bin/sh './configure' --prefix=/sw '--prefix=/sw' '--infodir=${prefix}/share/info' '--mandir=${prefix}/share/man' '--with-included-gettext' '--disable-csharp' '--disable-rpath' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/sw/include' 'CXX=g++-3.3' 'EMACS=no' 'LDFLAGS=-L/sw/lib' --cache-file=/dev/null --srcdir=. 21:31 -!- clayg [~clayg@CPE-24-26-167-94.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #fink 21:31 < cirdan> from unzip 21:31 < cirdan> err 21:31 < cirdan> gettext 21:31 < cirdan> prefix is twice 21:33 < vasi> oops 21:33 < clayg> quick question: everytime I go to do a fink selfupdate(every couple of months or so) it seems like some file has been modified. The end result is that I delete the file and run the command again...I make it a point not to modify the files, any clue what could cause the modification? 21:33 < dmacks> Maybe it's really *really* going to go into /sw? 21:33 < cirdan> hehe 21:34 < dmacks> clayg: Is it always the same file? Is it just one or a lot of them? 21:34 < dmacks> How (if at all) do you back up your system? 21:34 < clayg> dmacks: only 1 file this time around, not always the same file 21:37 < clayg> dmacks: I don't *grin* 21:37 < dmacks> clayg: I really don't know...people report that issue every few months. There's nothing standard that modifies those files except 'fink', and if you're always doing rsync *or* cvs (not switching off among those two methods) nothing should be out-of-sync. OTOH it's impossible to know from here "everything that's happened on your system in the past few months":) 21:37 < cirdan> clayg: then time to do one and format ;-) 21:38 < clayg> will going back and forth between fink commander and command line cause problems? 21:38 < dmacks> No. FCommander just calls "fink" in the background to do its work:) 21:39 < clayg> cirdan: nah, my system is running fine, i figure i'll do the reformat for 10.5 :) 21:39 < cirdan> clayg: right... 21:39 < cirdan> at least force a fsck 21:39 < cirdan> cause u might have filesystem probs brewing 21:40 < clayg> i do run that every once and awhile 21:44 < vasi> dmacks, is there any reason gtk 2.6 isn't in 10.4-trans yet? 21:44 < clayg> oh well, only one file this time around :) 21:45 * dmacks hadn't gotten around to syncing the 10.4-specific fixes into the new pkgs. 21:46 < dmacks> We really need a %{distribution} for this. 21:47 < vasi> were there 10.4-specific fixes needed? that doesn't seem too likely for something like gtk... 21:47 < dmacks> glib2 needed a poll fix. 21:47 < vasi> dmacks, before we can do something like that we need a better way to deal with trees/sections 21:47 < vasi> yeah, glib i know about 21:48 < vasi> oh ok, it's still the old glib2 in 10.4 also 21:48 < vasi> dang 21:50 < dmacks> I'm working on syncing right now....... 21:50 < vasi> yay thanks :-) 21:50 < vasi> i think svg support is only in 2.6 so one of my packages is complaining 21:51 < dmacks> There's lots of pkgs that are waiting on new-gtk/glib 21:52 < dmacks> meld rocks! 21:57 < vasi> better than kdiff? 21:57 -!- clayg [~clayg@CPE-24-26-167-94.mn.res.rr.com] has quit ["BitchX: it does a body good"] 21:58 < dmacks> Yeah, it doesn't need k* :) 21:59 -!- mdmonk [~mr_twitch@64.81.110.110] has left #fink [] 21:59 < vasi> whoa, do we not have kdiff3 in fink? weird 21:59 * vasi puts it on his list of things to get to eventually 22:00 < vasi> i just added a port of filelight, it's so pretty :-) 22:01 < dmacks> Should I backport your bsdiff-uses-fink's-bzip2 patch 10.4->10.3 ? 22:01 < cirdan> no, we just need smarter patches... 22:01 < cirdan> so they can go upstream and were done worrying about them 22:02 < dmacks> "your"=="vasi's" :) 22:03 < vasi> sure 22:08 < dmacks> What's the deal with two different implementations of path pruning in findutils 10.3 vs 10.4T? 22:09 < vasi> afaik the 10.4 way can be used in 10.3 as well 22:09 < vasi> uh wait, isn't it the same 22:09 < vasi> ? 22:10 < vasi> ah ok 22:10 < vasi> yeah, the new (10.4) way is better 22:10 < vasi> i just never got around to putting it in 10.3 22:11 < dmacks> Does it change the binary? 22:11 < vasi> yes 22:11 < dmacks> Crap. Okay.... 22:11 < vasi> but there's some stuff in the .info file that can go to 10.3 as well 22:12 < vasi> if you want to just copy the info/patch from 10.4 -> 10.3 and test 22:13 < dmacks> ...in progress... 22:14 < vasi> cool thanks :-) 22:14 < dmacks> (also pushed libgettext3 deps) 22:15 < vasi> yeah, everything 22:16 < dmacks> What's the Tiger prototype for strcasestr() ? 22:18 < dmacks> Aw nm...cirdan can deal with his own package mess. 22:21 < vasi> char *strcasestr(const char *big, const char *little); 22:29 < knghtbrd> char * ... what vasi said 22:29 < vasi> :-) 22:34 * knghtbrd attempts to enhance his calm and notes that one of his favourite movies is on =) 22:47 -!- KraMer [~mark@adsl-70-240-193-143.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:52 -!- dmacks_away [~dmacks@dmacks.active.supporter.pdpc] has quit [Ping timeout: 14400 seconds] 22:52 < dmacks> Buh-bye loser! 22:53 < dmacks> vasi: I think I've gotten everything gnomeish that I had upgraded in 10.3 synced into 10.4 now. 22:54 -!- Macrobyte [~macrobyte@pcp06495808pcs.nstnig01.ct.comcast.net] has joined #fink 22:56 -!- KraMer [~mark@adsl-70-240-193-143.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #fink 22:56 < dmacks> bbl 22:56 -!- dmacks [~dmacks@dmacks.active.supporter.pdpc] has quit ["leaving"] 23:08 -!- vasi is now known as vasiAway 23:09 -!- Macrobyte [~macrobyte@pcp06495808pcs.nstnig01.ct.comcast.net] has left #fink [] 23:16 < vasiAway> dmacks, you forgot gtk+2 23:16 -!- vasiAway is now known as vasi 23:16 < vasi> oops, you're gone anyhow 23:18 -!- dsias [~dsias@68-235-246-26.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 23:37 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: gecko2, uncon, pogma, Melian, taf2, ctd, xaru, JosephSpiros, Clef 23:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Melian, taf2, gecko2, xaru, ctd, JosephSpiros, pogma, uncon, Clef 23:41 -!- naventus [~naventus@c-67-188-95-181.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #fink 23:41 < naventus> hey guys 23:43 < vasi> hi 23:43 < naventus> i was wondering 23:44 < vasi> ? 23:44 < naventus> i was also in the stratagus channel 23:44 < naventus> and i had an error 23:44 < naventus> w/ pb31 23:44 < vasi> pb31? 23:44 < naventus> i mean 23:44 < naventus> vp31 23:44 < naventus> i believe 23:45 < vasi> i don't know what that is 23:45 < naventus> hmm 23:45 < naventus> just one sedc 23:45 < naventus> ill show the error 23:46 < naventus> the thing is that none of the strat guys have osx 23:46 < naventus> they pointed me to the cvs version 23:46 < naventus> but that's just differnet issues 23:46 < vasi> !lisppaste 23:46 < Melian> it has been said that lisppaste is a bot that lets you post large chunks of text without flooding the channel. Use it at http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink 23:46 < vasi> paste your problem, i'll take a quick look at it 23:47 < naventus> kk 23:47 < naventus> thanks 23:47 < vasi> (did you ask them if they've ever tested on a Linux PPC box? that would help exclude endian issues) 23:47 < naventus> i shall 23:47 < naventus> i think there was a server split 23:47 < naventus> so ill have to visit them agian 23:47 < naventus> they suggested the CVS 23:48 < naventus> because they pointed out the object in question 23:48 < naventus> may not be used under OSX 23:48 < naventus> but hold on- im recreating the issue rt now 23:49 < naventus> starts off with 23:49 < naventus> -o src/movie/vp31/obj/BlockMapping.o 23:49 < naventus> In file included from ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:28, 23:49 < naventus> from src/movie/vp31/obj/../BlockMapping.c:31: 23:49 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/rawTypes.h:49: error: parse error before 'cushort' 23:49 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/rawTypes.h:49: warning: data definition has no type or storage class 23:49 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/rawTypes.h:56: error: parse error before 'uint16' 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/rawTypes.h:56: warning: data definition has no type or storage class 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/rawTypes.h:60: error: parse error before 'cuint16' 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/rawTypes.h:60: warning: data definition has no type or storage class 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/rawTypes.h:72: error: parse error before 'cuint' 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/rawTypes.h:72: warning: data definition has no type or 23:50 < ottoaim> paste-bin silly 23:50 < naventus> goes on with 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:76: error: parse error before '}' token 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:76: warning: data definition has no type or storage class 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:95: error: parse error before 'BITREADER' 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:95: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:353: error: parse error before '*' token 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:381: error: parse error before '}' token 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:381: warning: data definition has no type or storage class 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:388: error: parse error before '*' token 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:389: error: parse error before '*' token 23:50 < naventus> ./src/movie/vp31/include/pbdll.h:390: error: parse error before '*' token 23:50 < naventus> haha ok 23:51 < vasi> whoa, didn't i just tell you to use lisppaste 23:51 < naventus> oh i'm sorry 23:51 < naventus> !lisppaste 23:51 < Melian> well, lisppaste is a bot that lets you post large chunks of text without flooding the channel. Use it at http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink 23:51 < naventus> ah i c 23:51 < naventus> ok thank you 23:51 < vasi> can you paste the contents of rawTypes.h ? 23:51 < naventus> can you explain what that is? 23:52 < naventus> ill find it but what does it do? 23:52 < vasi> i have no idea, but i can figure out why it's not compiling :-) 23:52 < naventus> i guess as well 23:52 < naventus> pbdll 23:52 < naventus> haha 23:53 < lisppaste> naventus pasted "rawTypes" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9210 23:54 < vasi> i think pbdll failed because of rawTypes actually 23:54 < naventus> uh huh 23:56 < naventus> hmm 23:56 < vasi> hmm, can you paste the compilation command? 23:56 < naventus> it seems to have parse errors 23:56 < naventus> at the ushort 23:57 < vasi> yeah, which leads me to conclude that the #include isn't happening 23:57 < vasi> since that should bring in ushort 23:57 < naventus> you mind if i just paste her 23:57 < naventus> e 23:57 < naventus> its just one line 23:57 < vasi> if it's one line you can paste in-channel, any more use the bot 23:57 < naventus> make depend && make 23:57 < vasi> grrr, not that 23:57 < vasi> the *compile command* 23:58 < vasi> should start with 'gcc' or 'g++' and contain '-c BlockMapping.c' somewhere in it 23:59 < vasi> i suspect that for some reason your program doesn't recognize that it's on a unix machine 23:59 < vasi> (or rather the build system doesn't) 23:59 < naventus> hmm 23:59 < vasi> so 'unix' isn't #define'd 23:59 < naventus> hmm that's not something that's set by recognizing osx? --- Log closed Sun Jun 19 00:00:01 2005