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06:13 < vasi> hi all
06:35 < vasi> pogma, i think i changed my mind, i'm becoming surer that problems would be noticed within 3 weeks
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07:23 < AshK> hello, anybody can help me? I'm trying to install gaim through fink, all the dependencies went through well but the last package wich is gaim gives me an error about gtk+, it stops at checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no but it has just been installed by fink as a dependence, any idea?
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08:48 < vasiAway> AshK, can you show me the error? use lisppase
08:48 < vasiAway> lisppaste: url?
08:48 < lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste.
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09:18 < AshK> yes
09:20 < AshK> this is the error :
09:20 < AshK> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
09:20 < AshK> *** The test program compiled, but did not run. This usually means
09:20 < AshK> *** that the run-time linker is not finding GTK+ or finding the wrong
09:20 < AshK> *** version of GTK+. If it is not finding GTK+, you'll need to set your
09:20 < AshK> *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point
09:20 < AshK> *** to the installed location  Also, make sure you have run ldconfig if that
09:20 < AshK> *** is required on your system
09:20 < AshK> ***
09:20 < AshK> *** If you have an old version installed, it is best to remove it, although
09:20 < AshK> *** you may also be able to get things to work by modifying LD_LIBRARY_PATH
09:20 < AshK> configure: error:
09:20 < AshK> *** GTK+ 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GTK+
09:20 < vasiAway> uh, didn't i just say to use lisppaste!?
09:20 < AshK> *** development headers installed. The latest version of GTK+ is
09:20 < AshK> *** always available at http://www.gtk.org/.
09:20 < vasiAway> STOP PASTING
09:20 < AshK> sorry it's a bit long...
09:20 < AshK> oops!
09:20 < vasiAway> use lisppaste!!
09:20 < AshK> sorry
09:20 < AshK> yes
09:24 < lisppaste> AshK pasted "gaim error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9601
09:24 < vasiAway> ok, can you post the file config.log that's in /sw/src/gaim*/gaim* ?
09:24 < vasiAway> that will tell me why gtk-config failed
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09:25 < RangerAway> may not be in /sw/src anymore, if fink changed the build path for spotlight  :P
09:25 < AshK> ok
09:25 < RangerAway> forget the directory name it calls it now
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09:26 < RangerRick> but it will be a directory in /sw/src  :)
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09:26 < vasi> RR, i think /sw/src/src.build
09:26 < vasi> but i dunno if that's gone into a release yet?
09:27 < RangerRick> I thought it did, but maybe not
09:27 < RangerRick> I already had mine set to something, so I never saw the rename dialog
09:27 < AshK> this file is really long, do you need everythong  or jsut the end or something?
09:27 < vasi> just put it in lisppaste, it can handle long files
09:27 < AshK> ok
09:29 < AshK> oops paste too large
09:29 < AshK> i'm going to split
09:32 < vasi> if you want, just search for the error and paste the stuff around that
09:32 < vasi> but better to include too much than too little
09:32 < AshK> even when i split it's still too large...
09:33 < AshK> i'm puting it my webpage...
09:34 < AshK> http://slyme.free.fr/gaim/config.log
09:36 < vasi> do you have darwinports installed?
09:36 < vasi> (and in your path?)
09:37 < AshK> I installed it but I don't know how path works on osX
09:37 < vasi> and your fink is installed where?
09:37 < vasi>  /sw? or somewhere else?
09:38 < AshK> yes /sw
09:38 < vasi> er....this gaim install, is that with fink or darwinports?
09:38 < vasi> cuz it looks to me like darwinports!
09:39 < AshK> ho yes i tried fink first and nothing showed and then darwinports
09:40 < vasi> "nothing showed"?
09:40 < vasi> what does that mean
09:41 < AshK> I mean it's checked in the list but the software is not installed, I only have the source
09:41 < AshK> So now I'm a bit lost
09:41 < vasi> so if you do 'fink list gaim', you see a little 'i' next to it....but you can't find it?
09:42 < AshK> I used fink commander but when I do fink list gaim there is no i
09:43 < pogma> hehe, hi
09:43 < vasi> but FinkCommander says it's installed?
09:43 < vasi> hi pogma :-)
09:44 < vasi> AshK, sorry if i sound pushy, i'm just trying to figure out what's going on
09:44 < AshK> I just tried again and it says broken packages
09:44 < AshK> of course no problem
09:45 < AshK> I'm just doing everything again while chatting
09:45 < AshK> ti make sure what I say is right
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09:45 < vasi> what says broken packages? FinkCommander?
09:45 < AshK> yes
09:45 < vasi> (please try to be specific!)
09:47 < vasi> unfortunately i don't know much about fink commander
09:47 < AshK> ok I can use the command line i just thought it was a GUI
09:48 < vasi> yeah it is a GUI, i just don't use it much so i personally don't know much about it
09:48 < AshK> ok, well I tried fink install gaim and fink asks for a dependency, shall i take pango1 or pango1-xtf2 ?
09:49 < vasi> xft2 i believe
09:49 < vasi> er, are you using a recent fink?
09:49 < vasi> (have you done a selfupdate lately?)
09:49 < AshK> I installed it 2 weeks ago
09:49 < vasi> ok just checking
09:49 < vasi> are you using stable or unstable?
09:49 < AshK> I should try to update?
09:49 < AshK> I don't know
09:50 < vasi> do 'grep Trees /sw/etc/fink.conf'
09:50 < vasi> if it says unstable anywhere there, then you're using unstable....but probably if you don't know, you're using stable
09:50 < AshK> stable
09:50 < vasi> which means you can use binary packages instead of making fink install things
09:50 < AshK> ok
09:50 < vasi> just do 'sudo apt-get install gaim' and it will download everything
09:51 < vasi> instead of compiling it :-)
09:51 < AshK> ho really, that's what I need
09:51 < AshK> I try
09:52 < AshK> ho fink tells me there are dependecies problems... broken packages...
09:52 < lisppaste> AshK pasted "fink error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9602
09:54 < baba> i got the same error on my 10.4
09:54 < AshK> that's what I use, 10.4
09:55 < pogma> please lisppaste /sw/etc/apt/sources.list
09:55 < AshK> ok
09:56 < vasi> do you have X11 installed?
09:57 < lisppaste> AshK pasted "sources.list" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9603
09:58 < AshK> I don't think X11 is installed, I don't remember everything since most of the dependecies got installed automaticcaly
09:58 < AshK> I don't find X11
09:59 < vasi> it's not a package
09:59 < vasi> i'm just trying to duplicate on my system so i can figure things out
09:59 < pogma> fink list xfree
09:59 < AshK> ok thanks
10:00 < vasi> yeah, apt-get doesn't seem to know about x11
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10:00 < AshK> shall I install it?
10:00 < vasi> hold on a sec AshK
10:00 < AshK> ok
10:00 < vasi> pogma, do you know if that's intentional?
10:00 < pogma> Do you have stuff in /usr/X11R6/lib/ ?
10:01 < vasi> pogma, i don't mean that way
10:01 < pogma> vasi: apt should see the same stuff as /sw/bin/fink-virtual-pkgs
10:01 < AshK> yes, lots of libs
10:01 < vasi> fink-virtual-pkgs still works
10:01 < vasi> er, i mean there don't seem to be bindist debs for xfree or org
10:01 < AshK> ho no
10:01 < pogma> vasi: probably not building
10:02 < pogma> vasi: I don't think RangerRick fixed things in time for the bindist
10:02 < vasi> hmm AshK, you DO have stuff in /usr/X11R6/lib?
10:02 < pogma> but you'd have to ask the builder to be sure
10:02 < AshK> yes I do
10:03 < vasi> try running fink-virtual-pkgs....it will spew a bunch of stuff, see if system-xfree86 is anywhere there
10:03 < AshK> it's not in the list
10:04 < pogma> run fink-virtual-pkgs --debug
10:04 < pogma> and lisppaste the result
10:05 < lisppaste> AshK pasted "fink-virtual-pkgs --debug" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9604
10:06 < vasi> AshK, do you have /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib?
10:06 < vasi> (if you see anything else similar, tell us that too)
10:06 < AshK> no I don't have that lib
10:07 < AshK> the closest is libX11.a
10:07 < vasi> do you know how you got X11 installed? ie: when you installed Tiger, did you install it? or did you get it via darwinports maybe?
10:07 < lisppaste> AshK pasted "X11 libs" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9605
10:07 < vasi> (also, do you have a folder /Library/Receipts/X11User.pkg?)
10:08 < vasi> yeah, it looks like you installed just X11SDK for some reason
10:08 < AshK> that's what I have when I ls /usr/X11R6/lib/
10:08 < vasi> yeah, ok i know what's going on now
10:08 < AshK> ok so I didn't do it on purpose, I even don't remember it
10:09 < vasi> k, get your Tiger DVD and put it in your Mac
10:09 < vasi> choose "Optional Installs"
10:09 < vasi> and choose to install X11
10:09 < AshK> I' sorry I just wanted to install gaim quickly I didn't think it was that complicated...
10:10 < vasi> it's just something that's optional in Tiger that you probably left out
10:10 < vasi> it should be very quick to install now, you don't have to reinstall Tiger or anything
10:10 < AshK> ho no i don't have that cd here... may be I can find it on the internet?
10:10 < vasi> nope, sorry, i don't think apple allows distribution
10:11 < vasi> there's a free version called Xorg, which you can get via fink
10:11 < AshK> ok so just tell me and i'll do it later
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10:11 < AshK> it works too with Xorg?
10:11 < pogma> AshK: it is easier to find your dvd, I think
10:11 < vasi> yeah, listen to pogma
10:11 < pogma> it should work with xorg or xfree86
10:11 < AshK> yes but my dvd is miles away from here
10:11 < vasi> (pogma, i can't believe we don't have either xorg or xfree86 in stable!)
10:12 < pogma> vasi: don't look at me!
10:12 < pogma> vasi: look at someone else!
10:12 < vasi> i'm not blaming you or anything, just expressing surprise
10:12  * vasi blames Canada
10:13  * baba looks at jessica
10:13 < AshK> so you think if I do apt-get install xorg it's ok?
10:13 < vasi> no, that won't work
10:13 < AshK> ho...
10:14 < vasi> wait a sec
10:14 < AshK> ok
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10:15 < vasi> alright, well here's what you have to do
10:15 < lisppaste> pogma pasted "stumendously small optimization of base-files, OK?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9606
10:15 < vasi> open up FinkCommander
10:16 < vasi> and go into the Preferences
10:16 < vasi> and then in the 'Fink' category, choose 'Use unstable packages'
10:16 < AshK> ok
10:16 < AshK> looks like it's updating something
10:17 < AshK> it's done
10:17 < vasi> pogma, what about the 'grep -v #' part?
10:18 < newmanbe> More optimised, but the first script looks longer. :)
10:18 < vasi> k AshK, now look for xorg in FinkCommander and install it
10:18 < AshK> ok
10:18 < vasi> oh woops, forgot to read the regex
10:18 < vasi> sorry pogma
10:18 < pogma> vasi: I check for ProxyHTP being near the start of the line with obly whitespace in between
10:18 < AshK> there's no bin so it's going to take some time
10:18 < vasi> AshK, yes it will take quite awhile
10:19 < vasi> give it a few hours
10:19 < vasi> (if you had the Tiger install DVD, you could install X11 in five minutes :-(  )
10:19 < AshK> ok let's go
10:20 < AshK> it's installing... yes I'd like to be home, everything would be easier, even my focus
10:20 < vasi> AshK, do you have a fast internet connection?
10:20 < AshK> around 20mbit/s
10:20 < vasi> if you want i can let you download my binaries of xorg :-)
10:21 < AshK> ho no 10 today
10:21 < AshK> that would be nice :)
10:22 < AshK> shall I stop the installation?
10:22 < vasi> yah
10:22 < AshK> ok thanks
10:22 < vasi> ok, in a few mins (after i transfer them to my server), look at http://vasi.webhop.org/files/fink/debs
10:23 < AshK> ok thanks a lot
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10:23 < vasi> download both xorg files there, and put them in /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system
10:23 < AshK> ok
10:23 < vasi> and then you should be able to do 'fink install xorg'
10:24 < vasi> afterwards if you want, you can turn off unstable, or you can leave it on.....advantage to leaving it on is more recent versions of packages, but if you turn it off then there are more binary things available
10:24 < AshK> ok I think I'm going to leave it
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10:25 < vasi> k, you can grab xorg from me now....i've got about 600 kbps up, so it will take a while but hopefully not too long
10:26 < vasi> (i guess 10 mins or so)
10:26 < vasi> server's got them, go get it
10:26 < AshK> I don't have that precise path /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system but rather /sw/fink/10.4-transitional...
10:26 < vasi> er, you should have dists as a symlink to 10.4-transitional
10:26 < vasi> so it's the same thing
10:27 < AshK> ho yes!
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10:32 < AshK> ok the file size has stopped growing so think they are complete...
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10:54 < AshK> when I try 'fink install xorg' fink still tries to install the old package, how can I tell it to install the .deb binaries?
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10:55 < Fang> fink reinstall?
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11:42 < akh> AshK:  If it's not in a standard location for binaries, use "sudo dpkg install <filenames>"
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11:42 < akh> (<filenames> will be the physical file names for xorg and xorg-shlibs)
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11:50 < AshK> ok thanks
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12:16 < AshK> finally I have gaim working, thanks a lot guys for the help. I have to launch xdarwin, it's pretty ugly, the gaim window has a disgusting green design, it was really hard to get it working but I think I'm not going to use it...
12:29 < RangerRick> finally figured out how to properly trap control-c in subshells, so my kde build script will actually die correctly when something fails  :)
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12:58 < akh> RangerRick:  Nice!  No more "mv failed".
12:59 < RangerRick> yup
12:59 < RangerRick> have to ignore signals in the main script, and then trap them in the subscript
13:00 < lisppaste> RangerRick pasted "bash weirdness" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/9611
13:01 < RangerRick> :)
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13:07 < akh> Ah--fun
13:09 < RangerRick> figured out a way to speed up kde builds too
13:10 < RangerRick> in my little environment helper script, I'm gonna set all the ac_cv stuff so it's cached  :)
13:10 < RangerRick> well, not all
13:10 < RangerRick> but the ones that will be common across osx versions
13:10 < akh> Sweet!
13:10 < akh> 50% less complaining.
13:11 < RangerRick> yeah
13:12 < akh> It'll just be "KDE takes forever to starty up"  ;-)
13:12 < RangerRick> hehe
13:12 < RangerRick> can't help that one
13:12 < akh> Nope.
13:13 < RangerRick> I think I'll just cache the yes's
13:13 < RangerRick> best to leave the no's for future changes
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13:13 < akh> sure
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13:27 < RangerRick> I guess I could just take whatever matches between a 10.3 and 10.4 build
13:27 < akh> Good idea
13:28 < RangerRick> do a diff and filter out any + or -'s  :)
13:30 < akh> Seems straightforward.
13:45 < RangerRick> let's see how it does
13:49 < RangerRick> it's faster
13:49 < RangerRick> wwonder if it's fas
13:49 < cirdan> heh
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13:49 < RangerRick> t enough to be worth the possibility of things being wrong
13:49 < cirdan> having trouble typing there, RangerRick? ;-)
13:50 < RangerRick> no, it's some kind of weird terminal bug that's shown up recently
13:50 < kmag> so... have any of you used fink's cdrecord?
13:50 < cirdan> i have
13:50 < cirdan> not for a bit though
13:50 < cirdan> whats up?
13:50 < RangerRick> km	nope
13:50 < kmag> can't scan bus (no surprise there)
13:50 < cirdan> right
13:50 < cirdan> did you read fink info cdrecord?
13:51 < kmag> but I'm trying to figure out how to use ioreg to find out which device to use
13:51 < cirdan> no idea on that
13:52 < cirdan> umm
13:52 < cirdan> hmm
13:52 < cirdan> i mean about the ioreg thing
13:52 < cirdan> there used to be info in the cdrtools info page...
13:54 < kmag> I'm guessing that cdrecord is my best bet for burning an El Torito CD under OS X
13:54 < kmag> is this correct?
13:54 < cirdan> yes, you can
13:54 < RangerRick> could always use the iso-generation bits and then use the osx burner if you can't get the ioreg stuff sussed out
13:55 < cirdan> to rwite a cd on a dvd drive, you use IODVDServices
13:55 < cirdan> as the device
13:55 < cirdan> for a cdr/w use IOCDServices
13:55 < cirdan> i think
13:55 < RangerRick> man, did I just speak english?
13:55 < cirdan> it's in the /sw/share/doc/cdrecord dir
13:55 < kmag> yea, I tried IOCDServices/0
13:55 < cirdan> RangerRick: kinda sorta maybe?
13:55 < RangerRick> hehe
13:56 < cirdan> hrm
13:56 < cirdan> just got back from hanging out with my ex gf...
13:56 < cirdan> whom i still like a lot
13:56 < cirdan> it's a weird relationship :-/
13:57 < RangerRick> those usually are
13:57 < cirdan> anyways, time to go to chinatown :-)
13:57 < cirdan> RangerRick: well, she's kinda like a cousin
13:57 < cirdan> we went to the art museam, and she acted like she still likes me too...then we went to the train station to see the guy whom she has started kinda seeing
13:57 < cirdan> s/see/pick up/
13:58 < cirdan> nice guy though
13:58 < kmag> what do you mean by _kinda_ a cousin?
13:58 < cirdan> anyway, time to get some fireworks :-)
13:58 < cirdan> kmag: her aunt and my mom were best friends since they were kids
13:58 < cirdan> but she's always lived a few hrs away
13:59 < cirdan> so i saw her sometimes since we were kids
13:59 < kmag> ah. so _kinda_ as in not at all
13:59 < cirdan> err, s/since/when/
13:59 < cirdan> well, we grew up as close as cousins
13:59 < cirdan> my mom's best friend's kids were like my sisters when we were little
14:00 < kmag> know any good fireworks shops in NYC Chinatown?
14:01 < cirdan> RangerRick: sancho has been yelling at me
14:01 < cirdan> /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 449
14:01 < cirdan> Use of uninitalized value in quotemeta at 
14:01 < cirdan>           /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/PkgVersion.pm line 449
14:01 < cirdan> kmag: dunno, wrong city :-)
14:01 < kmag> yea, saw you were in NJ
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14:01 < cirdan> philly is real close here
14:01 < kmag> thought maybe you were heading into NYC Chinatown
14:02 < RangerRick> cirdan: um... ok.  dunno what to do about that  :)
14:02 < kmag> Medford or Cherry Hill, by chance?
14:02 < cirdan> close
14:03 < cirdan> blackwook, near woodbury
14:03 < cirdan> wee, blackwood
14:03 < cirdan> 20 mi S of CH
14:03 < kmag> ahh
14:03 < cirdan> kmag: who do u know down here?
14:03 < kmag> Did you go to the live8live concert in Philly?
14:03 < cirdan> no
14:04 < kmag> I know some people that grew up in that area.  NYC isn't that far away
14:04 < kmag> I don't know anyone that lives there now
14:06 < cirdan> ah
14:06 < cirdan> ok, outta here
14:06 < kmag> k. thanks for your help
14:11 < kmag> so if not with cdrecord, how do y'all burn iso images?
14:12 < RangerRick> disk utility can burn them
14:12 < kmag> how about with El Torito extensions?
14:12 < RangerRick> I would expect it doesn't care, an iso is an iso
14:13 < RangerRick> worth a shot  :)
14:13 < kmag> well, except that I don't have the boot image in the iso
14:13 < kmag> I have it as a second file
14:13 < kmag> BeOS Max edition
14:15 < kmag> Disk Utility will do multi-session cds?
14:22 < kmag> Hmm... "Error starting Disk Utility backgroud process"
14:26 < kmag> hmm... I'm going to have to restart.  Thanks for your help rr
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14:54 < The_Tick> i need a salling clicker action to update fink at once!
14:54 < The_Tick> :P
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15:45 < Xira> hi
15:45 < Xira> i'm on tiger and having problems installing XMMS
15:46 < Xira> nicholas-pachecos-powerbook:~ root# fink install xmms
15:46 < Xira> Information about 1744 packages read in 1 seconds.
15:46 < Xira> Failed: Can't resolve dependency "libgl" for package "xmms-bin-1.2.8-2" (no matching packages/versions found)
15:47 < Xira> . /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/cc1plus is not executable!
15:47 < Xira> can anyone help me?
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16:09 < MacinMan> is there anyway to disable the build lock feature? it's giving me way too many problems it keeps stoping with build lock failure and i have to restart the procesws 
16:09 < RangerRick> it exists for a reason
16:09 < RangerRick> keep restarting.... it will finish eventually  :)
16:09 < MacinMan> ok
16:10 < RangerRick> a future fink version willl switch things out as needed
16:10 < MacinMan> ok
16:10 < MacinMan> i have panther on the ibook so i wasn't sure if thaqt's why
16:10 < MacinMan> if fink had been switched to tiger
16:11 < RangerRick> nope, it's because we implemented it finally, so now all the debs that are built are actually the same  ;)
16:11 < MacinMan> ahh ok
16:11 < MacinMan> well usually what i do rick is install the package that envokes it independently
16:12 < MacinMan> then go back to the main package
16:12 < MacinMan> it happens alot durring bundle-kde which i'm installing
16:12 < RangerRick> happens a lot with gdbm/gdbm3 and gettext/libgettext3
16:13 < RangerRick> will lessen as more and more packages are updated to use the newer ones
16:13 < RangerRick> also db42/db43/db3
16:14 < MacinMan> i downloaded yellowdog can i dual boot os x and linux
16:16 < MacinMan> i'm actually in a place where i can't access my desktops all i have is the ibook
16:21 < akh> grrr....viewcvs is down
16:21 < MacinMan> hi akh how are you?
16:21 < akh> not bad
16:21 < MacinMan> good to hear
16:22 < MacinMan> i just downloaded neooffice
16:22 < akh> I like it--I've been using it for a while.
16:23 < MacinMan> fink seems to really warm up the ibook
16:23 < akh> Compiling or otherwise?
16:23 < MacinMan> yeahcompiling kde
16:24 < akh> That would definitely do it.
16:25 < MacinMan> does neooffice have a fair compatibility with ms office
16:26 < akh> Reasonably good--some complicated features don't translate well.
16:26 < MacinMan> ok
16:26 < MacinMan> well basic word spreadsheet etc transfer ok right:?
16:27 < akh> Sure.
16:27 < MacinMan> OK
16:28 < akh> heh--I think I found the one application that opens _faster_ in TIger than on Panther.
16:29 < RangerRick> most of them do unless they use dlsym  :)
16:30 < akh> It must not.  Xcircuit is dog-slow on Panther, but opens pretty quickly on Tiger.
16:30 < MacinMan> tiger seems overall faster then panther
16:31 < akh> At least after that initial Spotlight run, anyway.
16:31 < MacinMan> well i was just waiting till tiger gets debugged a bit more before using it on anything but the emac
16:32 < akh> Probably not a bad idea.
16:32 < MacinMan> it seems to have buggy power management on the ibook
16:32 < akh> hmm...
16:32 < RangerRick> 10.4.2 has some power management fixes
16:32 < MacinMan> it wouldn't go to sleep
16:32  * akh had the opposite problem on my tower--sleeping during compiles.
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16:33 < akh> and not waking up.  :\
16:33  * akh turned off the "let hd sleep if possible" option.
16:33 < akh> That seemed to fix it.
16:35 < htodd> whooda
16:35 < htodd> .2?
16:36 < RangerRick> not out yet  :)
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16:38  * akh needs to play with my 10.4.2 seed.
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17:02 < Xira> so no one can help me?
17:03 < RangerRick> the libgl dep means your X11 isn't installed right
17:03 < Xira> uh
17:03 < Xira> I didn't know I had to have X11 installed... I thought it was for OS X
17:03 < Xira> hence it being on fink
17:04 < RangerRick> fink packages very few aqua apps
17:04 < RangerRick> xmms is an x11 app
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17:04 < Xira> oh
17:04 < Xira> thx for the info
17:04 < RangerRick> hence the "x"  ;)
17:04 < Xira> sort of new to fink
17:09 < akh> x of course being for "x11" not for "os 'x'"
17:09 < akh> That's a bit confusing for the uninitiated.
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20:57 < dk0r> can someone help me install this app on osx 10.4.1? ( http://www.blackalchemy.to/project/fakeap/ ) I have fink and xtools and xserv. Just need to know a few commands please
21:04 < zizban> lemme looksee
21:05 < zizban> okay download the  source code tar ball
21:08 < zizban> wow, thats some kind of  perl script
21:39 < htodd> so was there ever a fix for the openjade problems some people (including me) are having with building libgnomeprint?
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