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02:06 < cirdan> dmacks_away: /wii dmacks_away 
02:06 < cirdan> or /whois dmacks_away dmacks_away 
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09:14 < drm> anybody ever seen this? fink's tar doesn't want to create a tarfile whose name contains uppercase letters...it lowercases them
09:19 < newmanbe> No, but I have a work around. Use mv afterwards...
09:19 < drm> sure
09:19 < drm> /usr/bin/tar does the right thing too
09:21 < newmanbe> Because that is older and upercase file and directory names are obsolete...
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09:22 < drm> i missed that memo :)
09:23 < percussor> I'll send you another copy
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10:47 < cirdan> hey max
10:50 < Fingolfin> hi
10:58 < zizban> hey Fingolfin 
10:58 < zizban> long time, no see
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11:25 < dmacks> Fingolfin: Done exams?
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11:38 < dmacks> RangerRick: new libxml++ seems fine.
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12:13 < RangerRick> dmacks: cool
12:14 < crimson_penguin> how long is selfupdate supposed to take, and is it supposed to not be telling me anything about what it's doing?
12:15 < dmacks> crimson_penguin: cvs or rsync?
12:16 < crimson_penguin> rsync
12:16 < dmacks> Less than a minute usually. Perhaps  the initial server connection is hanging, so there's nothing to tell you?
12:16 < crimson_penguin> actually, I don't know; I went to selfupdate, not selfupdate-cvs, or selfupdate-rsync
12:17 < crimson_penguin> however, rsync seems to be running
12:17 < dmacks> Are you using FinkCommander or the 'fink' commandline tool?
12:17 < crimson_penguin> well, it's been quite a while
12:17 < crimson_penguin> I do have very slow internet, but still
12:17 < crimson_penguin> also, it seems to be using all my bandwidth
12:17 < crimson_penguin> FinkCommander
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12:18 < crimson_penguin> it says at the bottom "running /sw/bin/fink selfupdate"
12:18 < crimson_penguin> I really think my fink is rather broken :-\ I haven't successfuly updated in a long time
12:18 < dmacks> In a terminal window, type 'grep SelfUpdateMethod /sw/etc/fink.conf' (without the single-quotes)
12:19 < crimson_penguin> rsync
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12:20 < crimson_penguin> heey, it just started saying things
12:20 < dmacks> Cool!
12:20 < crimson_penguin> however, I think I may know what the problem is in general; I think fink thinks I have 10.3, but I have 10.4
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12:37 < chris01> crimson_penguin: have you read the news item on http://fink.sourceforge.net/ ?
12:38 < chris01> http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/upgrade.php also has info on how to make Fink aware of your new os.
12:38 < chris01> it (probably) boils down to run "/sw/lib/fink/postinstall.pl"
12:41 < crimson_penguin> chris01: I haven't, thanks
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13:03 < crimson_penguin> Failed to fetch http://us.dl.sourceforge.net/fink/direct_download/dists/10.4-transitional/release/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/Packages  302 Found [IP: 69.16.168.245 80]
13:03 < crimson_penguin> I get a bunch of those when running apt-get update
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13:06 < newmanbe>  !302
13:06 < newmanbe> I remember people getting 404's...
13:06 < newmanbe> !404
13:07 < crimson_penguin> 302 should redirect to a new URL, I would think
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13:30 < dmacks> No Melian, no Wiki, no CVS. The trifecta is complete!
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13:33 < chris01> he
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13:38 < percussor> only man! mwuahahaha
13:42  * newmanbe deletes the man-page while the info page is being made.
13:43 < newmanbe> What's wrong with CVS now?
13:44 < newmanbe> And the wiki?
13:46 < dmacks> wiki server no-respondee. SF developer-access (dunno about anon) CVS down for upgrades next ~36 he
13:46 < dmacks> s/he/hr/
13:46 < newmanbe> How fun.
13:46 < newmanbe> I filed two support requests.
13:46 < newmanbe> They didn't like the first one because I wasn't logged in (I could'a sworn I was).
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13:50 < newmanbe> Hmm, it is a high prirority support request that they deferred until later.
13:51 < newmanbe> !sf.netsmite ;)
13:53 < newmanbe> dmacks: It is all your fault for giving them money to upgrade their hardware.
13:57 < gecko2> dmacks: only dev cvs is down
13:57 < gecko2> as announced few days ago
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14:24 < moike> hi
14:24 < moike> is anyone running kde on their x11?
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14:31 < Murr> morning
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14:38 < dmacks> gecko2: Yup.
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14:56 < crimson_penguin> this selfupdate is taking forever, heh
14:57 < crimson_penguin> good thing it's not late and there's no reason for me to get off the net.. I hope I don't get disconnected though
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15:42 < crimson_penguin> so, I got disconnected while running selfupdate (rsync); what should I do to continue
15:42 < drm> run it again
15:43 < crimson_penguin> ok, kill it and start again?
15:43 < drm> yeah
15:43 < crimson_penguin> oh nice, it doesn't even kill it, I can just retry same mirror
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15:43 < drm> yeah, fink intercepts control-c
15:44 < crimson_penguin> nifty :)
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19:17 < muesli> hey guys
19:17 < muesli> someone familiar with coreaudio?
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19:21 < akh> stupid internet
19:21 < newmanbe_> What's wrong with it?
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19:22 < newmanbe_> Hmm, odd.
19:22 < akh> The connection between my work and the rest of it is broken.
19:22 < newmanbe_> How nice.
19:23 < akh> Unless I want to look for stuff online.  :-\
19:23 < newmanbe_> Why would you want to do that?
19:24 < newmanbe_> !lilosmite Help Viewer.app
19:24 < akh> It's quicker than dialing every phone number in the US to find the part I need.  ;-)
19:24 < akh> No Melian for you!
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19:25 < newmanbe_> And no wiki for you apparently either.
19:26 < dmacks_> akh is alive!
19:26 < Murr> hehe
19:26 < Murr> now that's an interesting Oxymoron
19:26 < Murr> a Wiki Nazi
19:26 < akh> yeah
19:29 < zizban> heh
19:33 < dmacks_> Dr. Oo.o built it!
19:35 < akh> dmacks_: Yup.  /me did, too. 
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19:57 < dmacks_> !seen drm
19:57 < dmacks_> d'oh:(
19:58 < dmacks_> cirdan: Ya feel like firin' up Melian for us?
20:03 < zizban> heh
20:08 < msachs> dmacks: He was in earlier today.
20:08 < dmacks_> !msachssnack
20:08 < msachs> Mmm, tasty.
20:08 < msachs> Guess I'll go investigate that haunted mansion, *sigh*
20:08 < dmacks_> ?
20:08 < msachs> Ever watch Scooby Doo?
20:09 < dmacks_> Ah yeah:) /me missed the *snack reference I guess.
20:10 < msachs> :)
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20:39 < cirdan> hey
20:39 < dmacks_> eh?
20:39 < msachs> 'lo cirdan
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20:49 < akh> mmmm...cvs outage
20:50 < dmacks_> Unlike some outages today, this one was planned:/
20:50 < akh> Yah
20:50 < akh> Mine finally got fixed
20:51 < zizban> get a UPS?
20:52 < akh> Not that one--the one at work today.
20:53 < akh> My UPS is due in ~2 weeks (i.e. when I'm not using the AC anymore)
20:57 < cirdan> heh
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20:58 < dmacks_> !wb Melian 
20:58 < Melian> Welcome back Melian, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos.
20:59 < dmacks_> !wb to myself
20:59 < Melian> Welcome back to myself, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos.
20:59 < dmacks_> There we go.
21:02 < zizban> heh
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21:05 < cirdan> aww
21:05 < cirdan> ok, wtf
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21:05 < dmacks_> ?
21:05 < cirdan> my sister's G5 is acting up
21:05 < cirdan> seems like some bad ram
21:06 < cirdan> of course, it has to be the 2 512 chips, not the 128s
21:06 < cirdan> !alicekill blackouts
21:06 < Melian> I want to kill blackouts, I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill blackouts. Kill. I wanna see blackouts's blood and gore and guts and have blackouts's veins in my teeth.  Eat blackouts's dead burnt body.  I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL! and I jump around with cirdan, yelling "KILL, KILL"
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21:07 < zizban> that's disturbing
21:08 < newmanbe_> Hmm, what's with the power problems of people here lately?
21:08  * newmanbe_ blames SourceForge.net.
21:08 < dmacks_> Power to the people, man!
21:09 < newmanbe_> lol
21:09 < zizban> I blame SourceForge for my problems
21:09 < newmanbe_> I should get a UPS someday...
21:09 < newmanbe_> zizban: Not even SourceForge.net? You go right to SourceForge? :)
21:10 < cirdan> OSDN!
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21:10 < zizban> yepper, skip the middle man :)
21:10 < cirdan> !lart OSDN
21:10  * Melian accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets OSDN feel it
21:10  * dmacks_ smiles at red "UPS+generator backup" outlet on office wall...
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21:10 < newmanbe_> Those are for, uh, important things like, uh, people on life support.
21:10 < cirdan> hmm, screen froze, mouse works
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21:10 < newmanbe_> And keyboard apparently too.
21:10 < cirdan> wkjdhulqhqwc;x
21:11 < newmanbe_> cirdan!
21:11 < cirdan> i can ssh it...
21:11 < cirdan> err, ping it
21:11 < cirdan> but i doubt ssh
21:11  * newmanbe_ wonders if cirdan is talking about the machine he is using to IRC.
21:11 < cirdan> no
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21:12 < cirdan> ok, so how do i test the ram on a G5
21:12 < newmanbe_> Pull the plug!
21:12 < cirdan> i dont know if my applecare cd will boot it
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21:12 < newmanbe_> Use the Apple Hardware Test thingy.
21:12 < newmanbe_> Oh.
21:12 < cirdan> it should...
21:12 < cirdan> hmm
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21:12 < cirdan> must find
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21:12 < cirdan> anypone have lots of u/l speed that can make an image of it?
21:12 < cirdan> ;-)
21:12 < cirdan> case i can't find mine
21:13 < cirdan> odd...sleep works
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21:14 < dmacks_>  < newmanbe_> Those are for, uh, important things like, uh, people on life support.
21:14 < dmacks_> < newmanbe_> Pull the plug!
21:14 < newmanbe_> lol
21:15 < cirdan> hmm
21:15 < cirdan> how do i force the panic log?
21:16 < newmanbe_> Hit it on its funny bone.
21:16 < cirdan> panic() silly
21:17 < cirdan> or fire(in_theatre);
21:17 < newmanbe_> Fundraising campaign for newmanbe! http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/html/products/mobile/bullfrog-dual/
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21:18 < newmanbe_> A ~20.5 pound noteboot.
21:18 < zizban> Sun will be making their own now
21:18 < newmanbe_> notebook
21:18  * dmacks_ caught a student using a "noteboot" to sneak answers into a final exam once.
21:18 < cirdan> hrh
21:19 < cirdan> dmacks_: why do you think there are calculators used on engligh tests
21:19 < zizban> solaris on x86 laptop= cheaper
21:19 < newmanbe_> Hmm? I wouldn't want to run Solaris anyway.
21:20 < newmanbe_> I'd be cought in your constant search for a wm.
21:20 < dmacks_> heh
21:20 < zizban> not me...I'm happy with WindowLab
21:20 < newmanbe_> Are you sure?
21:21 < newmanbe_> Could be someone else here...
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21:21 < zizban> well I asked last night for someone else since they dont like WindowLab
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21:23 < zizban> on Linux it's MWM, solaris it's WindowLab
21:24 < dmacks_> You should use 4Dwm!
21:24 < dmacks_> Oh wait, I don't hate you...ne'ermind.
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21:40 < zizban> I do use 4dwm
21:40 < zizban> or did, until my monitor died :(
21:42 < akh> That would kind of make the WM irrelevant.
21:42 < dmacks> heh
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21:44 < dmacks> Okay, why we gettin' spam on -core?
21:45 < cirdan> is akh posting again? :-p
21:45 < assassin> Is it porn spam? :o
21:45 < zizban> well, with my sgi down, I'm using a pc as my second box
21:45 < akh> dmacks:  oops.
21:46 < akh> must have hit TAB too often a couple of times on the moderation page
22:02 < dmacks> *grr* why do I even bother to examine any bare-bones items on -submissions? We need a bot that scans for "any unknown maintainer, no DocFiles || no *Depends"
22:04 < akh> Sounds good
22:09 < zizban> c'mon, there is always a diamond in the rough
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22:22 < dmacks> zizban: You're right...it didn't cause a kernel panic when I compiled it
22:24 < zizban> see? downer :)
22:31 < Feanor> i like the html spam on fink-core
22:33 < zizban> heh
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