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05:38 < muesli> where can i find the jpeglib.h?
05:39 < Feanor> install libjpeg
05:39 < Feanor> it's in /sw/include
05:39 < muesli> Feanor: thought so. but it is installed
05:39 < muesli> hm
06:13  * Knghtbrd use fink to do disturbing things in game engines  =D
06:14 < Knghtbrd> Frank Miller's Quake (a few shots, the mod isn't finished):  http://yumi.bluecherry.net/~knghtbrd/tw.zip
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08:44 < akh> Feanor:  (for when you check in)  Yes it is.  I (or someone else) can give you the password.
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09:08 < akh> ugh--the bindist is slow
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09:22  * akh wonders if my slow connection to the bindist is at my end or at the server...
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09:53 < newmanbe> Still no Melian.
09:56 < newmanbe> Early retirment to Jim Sensenbrenner and death to people who only have a form for contact information, espcially when it doesn't work.
10:00 < akh> heh--wonder if it's deliberately broken.
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10:00 < newmanbe> Might be.
10:00 < newmanbe> I was going to complain about only a x86 Linux binary being avaliable.
10:04 < akh> No source?
10:13 < newmanbe> Nope. :(
10:15 < akh> That's evil
10:15 < newmanbe> I know.
10:16 < akh> Silly proprietary people.
10:18 < newmanbe> Okay, the CVS issue should be fixed.
10:18 < akh> Your unexpected access?
10:19 < newmanbe> No, not that.
10:19 < newmanbe> They said to ask Max.
10:19 < newmanbe> And Max said to ask them.
10:19 < newmanbe> Reverse that.
10:19 < newmanbe> Max said to ask them and they told me to ask him.
10:19 < akh> so the circle goes the other way?
10:19 < akh> ah
10:19 < newmanbe> Right.
10:19 < akh> Still a circle.
10:19 < akh> ;-)
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10:42 < newmanbe> Is SourceForge.net developer CVS stil not working?
10:42 < newmanbe> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
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10:44 < newmanbe> Hmm, interesting update released today: https://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?group_id=1&docid=2352
10:47 < akh> newmanbe: CVS worked for me this morning--I committed stuff.
10:49 < zizban> woot, go SF.net
10:54 < jack-> little stupid question
10:54 < jack-> if i have kde3 installed already, the no-ssl build
10:55 < jack-> and i want to "update" it to kde3-ssl
10:55 < jack-> how should i do that?
10:55 < akh> Remove it all
10:55 < jack-> fink remove kdelibs3 complains..
10:55 < jack-> all? omg :(
10:55 < akh> Well, the non-ssl stuff will get reinstalled.
10:56 < jack-> isnt there a way to just remove kdebase and kdelibs/shlibs?
10:56 < jack-> yeah i know, but i'll lose tons of settings and stuff
10:56 < akh> Those normally get preserved
10:57 < akh> You can use "dpkg -r --force-depends <pkg>" to remove anything and ignore the dependencies.
10:58 < akh> Fink, by default, doesn't purge any settings.
10:58 < jack-> great, merci bien :)
10:58 < akh> No problem.
11:13 < jack-> success
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11:52  * RangerRick is making it so kde 3.4.2 will be the same for ssl and non-ssl
11:52 < RangerRick> so it won't matter anymore
11:53 < RangerRick> and oh, the crazy dependency machinations that it will take to make *that* happen  :)
11:53  * RangerRick had to make kdelibs3-merged-shlibs kdelibs3-merged-dev and so on, with the other packages depending on -merged
11:53 < RangerRick> whee
11:57 < chris01> RangerRick: you are the maintainer of qt3, too, right?
11:57 < RangerRick> chris01: yes
11:57 < chris01> Do you want to maintain qt4mac?
11:57 < chris01> :)
11:57 < RangerRick> not particularly  :)
11:57 < chris01> oh... ok.
11:57 < RangerRick> don't maintain qt3mac even  :)
11:57 < chris01> i know..
11:58 < chris01> well, anyway, i made a qt4mac package that is in my exp dir.
11:58 < chris01> if you want to try it.
11:58 < chris01> seems to work pretty well, and looks (almost) nice in aqua, too.
11:58 < chris01> (compared to qt3mac)
12:02 < jack-> <3 RangerRick
12:03 < jack-> those laws that made people do stuff like crypto/noncrypto trees are just $%& anyway
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12:06 < assassin> hello hello
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12:07 < assassin> Question. If I'm using only part of a package, would it be better to just create a new tarball for it?
12:10 < chris01> assassin: probalby not, expect the tarball is huge
12:10 < assassin> chris01: tis
12:11 < assassin> It's a 190M v 1 situation
12:13 < chris01> mhm.
12:13 < chris01> ask the upstream maintainers to split the tarball?
12:13 < assassin> Well. Apple doesn't even officially support this part, so I doubt they'd split it ;)
12:15 < chris01> he
12:33 < RangerRick> 12:03 <@LouZiffer> http://www.kkmime.org
12:34 < jack-> !lisppaste
12:34 < jack-> lisppaste: url
12:34 < lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste.
12:37 < lisppaste> jack- pasted "??" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/10738
12:37 < jack-> really weird, no idea how to get around such points
12:38 < RangerRick> you using the stable tree?
12:38 < jack-> i didnt edit the config at all, so i guess i do
12:38 < RangerRick> looks like someone moved a package they shouldn't have moved yet  :)
12:38 < jack-> what can i do? ;)
12:38 < RangerRick> might want to try getting it from apt, instead
12:39 < RangerRick> the other alternative is to move to unstable, or wait for libgettext3 to go to stable (which will be very soon, I believe)
12:39 < jack-> E: Couldn't find package libgettext3-dev
12:39 < jack-> :<
12:39 < jack-> so i just have to enable the unstable tree and fink update-all will make it through?
12:40 < RangerRick> yes, but you'll be building a *lot*  :)
12:40 < jack-> hrmz ;) ok
12:41 < jack-> does update-all get even packages i never installed?
12:41 < jack-> i thought it just revamps all the installed packages
12:41 < RangerRick> right
12:41 < RangerRick> but there are lots of differences between stable and unstable
12:41 < jack-> ok, i wont bother :)
12:41 < RangerRick> just saying, you'll be building more than just xchat  :)
12:41 < RangerRick> it should be in apt-get
12:41 < jack-> if you say libgettext3 will be in stable soon, its fine
12:47 < akh> Isn't the sequence fink-0.24.9 -> libgettext3
12:47 < akh> ?
12:47 < akh> (for swapping)
12:48 < akh> So we've got to get fink-0.24.9 out the door and into stable.
12:48 < RangerRick> akh: right, i was under the impression those two were gonna go together
12:49 < akh> That could well be--though 0.24.9 isn't even available in _un_stable yet.
12:54  * akh thinks the 0.23.10 -> 0.24.9 leap is probably going to cause some consternation at first.
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14:58 < lisppaste> jack- pasted "nessus build failure" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/10743
14:58 < jack-> shrug
14:58 < jack-> no idea what could be wrong, i just did fink install nessus
14:59 < akh> Maybe it's linking to non-Fink stuff that lacks the symbols it wants.
15:00 < jack-> ok :<
15:05 < akh> So look at the compiler line before that and see what's there...and most likely you'll want to temporarily rename any extraneous directories.
15:06 < jack-> yeah, thanks
15:06 < akh> Unfortunately making Fink bulletproof has proven to be nontrivial.
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15:07 < jack-> understandable, akh :)
15:07 < jack-> its doing a great job at 95% already, so..no biggie
15:08 < jack-> i just wish all those neat xmms plugins had been fink-ized already too
15:09 < jack-> wasnt easy to port that stuff, particularly those that use SDM
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16:04 < runelind> hey finkers
16:04 < jtyler> yo
16:04 < msachs> Hey runelind 
16:05 < runelind> so will fink work in x86? :)
16:05 < msachs> Yeah.
16:05 < msachs> I've done a few world builds on x86.
16:05 < runelind> excellent
16:05 < runelind> </mr burns>
16:05 < msachs> Lots of packages need work, but the infrastructure is there, and the results are pretty decent.
16:05 < akh> Though the package set may be contingent on maintainers with x86 boxes.
16:05 < runelind> now I just need an x86 mac box ;p
16:05 < msachs> http://fink.opendarwin.org/build/2005-06-24.intel/out/report.html
16:05 < msachs> I can do more x86 world builds, and one-off builds of packages for testing, if people ask me to.
16:06 < akh> Cool
16:06 < akh> I'm sure they will.  ;-)
16:06 < msachs> Groovy.
16:07 < runelind> maybe I'll try one of these *cough* vmware images *cough*
16:07 < runelind> I mean
16:07  * runelind hides
16:07 < msachs> *whistles and eats a slice of pie*
16:07 < Feanor> we'll have to decide if we want to maintain entire seperate info trees per architecture
16:07 < Feanor> since the porting changes might be endian-dependent
16:08 < msachs> Well there ought to be ifdefs in the code for that.
16:08 < runelind> could it not theoretically work like NetBSD does it?  same tree for all architectures
16:08 < Feanor> that seems like overkill, but i guess we might want a system for choosing patches based on cpu
16:08 < runelind> not that I know _how_ that works, just that it does 
16:11 < newmanbe> cirdan_: Still no Melian.
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16:13 < msachs> Wow, not only is there a Solid Waste Digest, but it costs $500/year.
16:15 < akh> That's like throwing money away.  ;-)
16:15 < msachs> I guess if you need pricing data on waste disposal...
16:15 < Feanor> oh, yeah, akh... i fixed smartmontools' revision number before commiting it, but didn't put it on the tracker again. so now it's the same package in 10.3 and 10.4 with different revision numbers and no other changes
16:16 < akh> Ah
16:16 < Feanor> chutwig (the maintainer) said he'd just skip to 5 on both threes if he has to make another change, though
16:16 < Feanor> *trees
16:16 < akh> fair enough
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16:51 < jack-> question..is there any x11-gui ftp client in fink? something like iglooftp?
16:52 < newmanbe> I know there is Konqueror, but that brings along a lot of friends.
16:52 < newmanbe> !pdb
16:52 < newmanbe> http://www.finkproject.org/pdb
16:52 < jack-> yeah i have the full kde installed :)
16:52 < jack-> but i'm searching for a flashfxp-like client that can save queues and stuff..
16:52 < jack-> iglooftp wasnt bad, dunno why it never got finked
16:53 < newmanbe> You could try kget if you already have KDE.
16:53 < jack-> ok, trying
16:53 < jack-> its installed already
16:54 < newmanbe> Death to FTP! Long live Gopher!
16:56 < jack-> :)
16:56 < jack-> ftp isnt that bad, with auth tls and the fxp feature
16:57 < newmanbe> FTP is bad! Death to FTP! Death to FTPS! Long live Gopher!
16:58 < jack-> hehe
16:58 < jack-> how long is it since gopher had users
16:58 < jack-> like 10 years, right?
16:59 < newmanbe> /I/ use Gopher.
16:59 < jack-> ok :)
16:59 < newmanbe> And an important person in Debian uses Gopher.
17:00 < newmanbe> Acutally Software in the Public Interest, Inc. but that's the same thing for our purposes.
17:01 < pnorman> I remember Gopher. That was back when packets travelled by stage coach.
17:01 < newmanbe> And were very comfortable too!
17:03 < newmanbe> Hmm, UW-MN's gopherd has some sort of authentication scheme.
17:04 < newmanbe> Great thing the configure script works. Bah. :D
17:08 < pnorman> I just wrote a conclusion for a report that I didn't read, and I'll give it to someone else to bind and hand in to someone else who won't read the entire thing.
17:16 < msachs> Was the report generated randomly?
17:17 < msachs> Or did it involve the endochronic properties of things that've been resublimated?
17:23 < pnorman> No, it didn't involve disolving crystals into water
17:24 < pnorman> It's for a robotics project, I'm just putting it together
17:24 < msachs> Ah, robots.
17:25 < pnorman> http://www.physics.ubc.ca/~andre/ph253/ is the site for the class
17:25 < msachs> Does it include a section on the risks of them running amok and killing us all?
17:25  * newmanbe misses our robot. *sobs* Melian!
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17:32 < fprimex> hi folks, when I try to 'fink install cdrtools' I get "package not found" even though cdrtools is on the website as a package. can anyone help? I've done 'fink selfupdate' and 'fink update-all' (even though I have not installed anything yet). thanks in advance
17:33 < msachs> fprimex: Are you on Tiger?
17:33 < fprimex> msachs: yes
17:33 < fprimex> all up to date too.
17:33 < msachs> Okay, cdrtools is only available in unstable in Tiger.
17:33 < msachs> !unstable
17:34 < msachs> Oh, right, no Melian.
17:34 < msachs> Well, have a look at http://finkproject.org/faq/usage-fink.php?phpLang=en#unstable
17:34 < fprimex> hmm... I'd be willing to give it a shot. how do I update to unstable?
17:34 < fprimex> will do :)
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17:43 < newmanbe> megahal: Is oil a toxic substance?
17:43 < megahal> newmanbe: Coda-a it's not in substance, yet in form, the struggle of the oil.
17:44 < newmanbe> Burn oil prevent the next ice-age!
17:45 < zizban> heh
17:48 < newmanbe> Silly public radio guest.
17:48 < jack-> checking for easter eggs... none found
17:48 < jack-> lol?
17:49 < jack-> never saw that yet in a configure script :)
17:49 < newmanbe> Be interesting to see what it is checking for. (If anything.)
17:49 < jack-> yeah
17:49 < fprimex> wasn't there something similar in enlightenment? checking for beer in the fridge or something?
17:49 < jack-> something in openssl, most probably
17:53 < newmanbe> Yo hdutil! If I make a diskimage that's 10m, I probably want the file system to be ~10m too!
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18:15 < Feanor> what's with freenode's hostmasks?
18:15 < Feanor> cianhughes [n=cian@cian.ws] 
18:15 < cianhughes> Feanor: yes
18:16 < Feanor> everyone has n= in theirs
18:17 < fprimex> ok, I have updated fink to use unstable and have cdrecord and mkisofs installed. I am very familiar with both of these programs, but sudo cdrecord -scanbus can't find any devices. is there more I need to do?
18:18 < newmanbe> Feanor: n= means they are not identified with indetd.
18:19 < newmanbe> identd
18:19 < newmanbe> i= means they are.
18:19 < newmanbe> Such as gecko2.
18:19 < fprimex> aha, dev=IODVDServices perhaps. thank you google :)
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18:32 < zizban> oh boy fink is in the latest MacAddict
18:33 < cianhughes> Feanor: I don't run a public identd
18:33 < newmanbe> zizban: What's it about?
18:33 < newmanbe> akh_gone: You shut down fink-beginners.
18:33 < zizban> a little blurb about it and what it's good for
18:33 < newmanbe> RangerAway: You follow the rest of the plan.
18:33 < zizban> mentions FC as well
18:34 < newmanbe> Oh, so it's not how to install KDE or anything like that?
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18:34 < zizban> nooooooo
18:34 < zizban> we'd have a 1,000 people bitchin online right now if it was ;)
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18:54 < newmanbe> Sigh, I don't like it when things won't build.
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19:12 < newmanbe> Hexley?
19:20 < zizban> I was wondering the same thing
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19:44 < KsiLaptop> Hello, having an irritating issue with Terminal because of fink. Every time I launch terminal now, it tries to apt-get a package again, how do I fix this?
19:45 < newmanbe> Hello.
19:45 < newmanbe> http://www.finkproject.org/faq/
19:45 < newmanbe> I think that is one of the questions.
19:46 < KsiLaptop> Nope.
19:46 < zizban> he must be running akh_gone's Secret World Domination Script
19:47 < msachs> Check in ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile, what lines in there reference bits in /sw ?
19:48 < KsiLaptop> Don't have either of those files in there.
19:49 < KsiLaptop> Oh, have ~/.profile though, and there is a line there.
19:49 < msachs> Ah, what's the line?
19:49 < KsiLaptop> test -r /sw/bin/init.sh && . /sw/bin/init.sh
19:49 < msachs> Okay, that's what it should be.
19:49 < msachs> What specifically does it try to do?
19:49 < KsiLaptop> sudo /sw/bin/apt-get -q0 -f install irssi
19:50 < zizban> oooh irssi, good choice :)
19:50 < msachs> That's kind of random.
19:50 < KsiLaptop> i got tired of Colloquy
19:51 < KsiLaptop> And I had it nice and installed on my linux box.
19:51 < KsiLaptop> And....rather like it.
19:51 < newmanbe> There is an SSL version of irssi to I do believe.
19:51 < msachs> Well the first thing I'd do to test is move aside /sw/bin/init.sh, and see if the problem goes away.
19:51 < KsiLaptop> I don't really use SSL
19:51 < KsiLaptop> msachs: Alright, lemme look at the file actually.
19:51 < newmanbe> Suit yourself.
19:53 < KsiLaptop> Commenting out that line in .profile didn't do anything.
19:53 < msachs> It's possible that it's using csh, might be worth checking for ~/.cshrc and commenting out the equivalent line there.,
19:54 < KsiLaptop> k...
19:55 < KsiLaptop> Don;t have anything by that name.
19:55 < KsiLaptop> I have a pretty stock 10.4 install, i don't tinker much with the base system.
19:55 < msachs> Okay, in Terminal Preferences, what's it set to do when creating a new terminal window?
19:56 < KsiLaptop> Aha
19:56 < KsiLaptop> Execute /usr/bin/login
19:56 < KsiLaptop> Lemme look at that.
19:56 < msachs> I'd be curious as to whether changing it to /bin/bash has an effect.
19:56 < KsiLaptop> Which is binary, awesome.
19:57 < KsiLaptop> Same effect
19:57 < KsiLaptop> But, I'll comment out that line in .profile
19:57 < msachs> Okay, so the files that bash reads when it starts up are /etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile, and ~/.bashrc.
19:57 < msachs> Oh, and ~/.inputrc
19:58 < KsiLaptop> Only one that exists is /etc/profile, and that's empty.
19:58 < KsiLaptop> Er
19:59 < KsiLaptop> Doesn't have anything referring to /sw
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20:00 < msachs> Harrumph.
20:00 < KsiLaptop> Heh
20:00 < msachs> Most peculiar.
20:00 < msachs> Try making a new user account, see if that user has the problem.
20:00 < KsiLaptop> I have a knack for having these kinds of issues.
20:00 < KsiLaptop> k, sec
20:00 < msachs> That'll at least narrow it down to your account...
20:01 < KsiLaptop> I'll be back in a sec.
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20:16 < KsiLaptop> Didn't do it on the test account
20:20 < KsiLaptop> And I had to run the binary directly
20:20 < msachs> So it's something in your home directory somewhere.
20:20 < msachs> The binary?
20:20 < KsiLaptop> Path seems messed.
20:20 < KsiLaptop> Yeah
20:20 < KsiLaptop> I had to use the full path.
20:21 < msachs> Oh, well yes, the test account isn't doing . /sw/bin/init.sh so it doesn't get /sw/bin and /sw/sbin in its path.
20:21 < msachs> The first place to look is dotfiles in ~/, the next place to look is under ~/Library.
20:21 < KsiLaptop> Neither is this app.
20:21 < KsiLaptop> Er
20:21 < KsiLaptop> account
20:21 < msachs> Maybe grep your home dir for irssi
20:22 < KsiLaptop> I have an irssi folder.
20:22 < msachs> Though that would be easier if you could get a terminal ;p
20:22 < KsiLaptop> Getting the terminal isn't a problem.
20:22 < msachs> Could try moving it aside.
20:22 < KsiLaptop> I'm using irssi now.
20:22 < KsiLaptop> The problem is it keeps running that now, and now irssi isn't in the path.
20:23 < msachs> By "it keeps running that", you mean it tries to start irssi when you open a Terminal, and it can't find it, and then you don't get a shell prompt?
20:23 < KsiLaptop> It keeps running apt-get
20:23 < KsiLaptop> I just cancel it and I'm at a prompt
20:24 < msachs> Okay.
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20:24 < msachs> I'd do grep -r apt-get ~
20:25 < Ksilebo> lots in .bash_history
20:25 < msachs> Those're fine.
20:27 < Ksilebo> And I just swallowed a sunflower seed whole, dammit...
20:27 < msachs> Owie :(
20:28 < msachs> Maybe you'll get a pretty sunflower growing in there, at least...
20:28 < Ksilebo> Actually it went pointy end first, so it didn't hurt, but felt weird
20:30 < Ksilebo> Its still running, I have quite a few files in ~ so hold on.
20:30 < msachs> Yep.
20:30 < Ksilebo> Thanks for your help, btw, I appreciate it.
20:31 < Ksilebo> This is motivating me to do the system wipe I wanted to do before school started more and more.
20:31 < msachs> np
20:31 < msachs> I work for Apple, so thank them :)
20:31 < Ksilebo> Ha, awesome.
20:31 < msachs> Yeah, Corporate Games are going on right now.
20:31 < msachs> So there are engineers catapulting waterballoons right outside my window.
20:32 < msachs> And a guy in a cow suit.
20:32 < Ksilebo> Wow.
20:32 < newmanbe> And you're not playing with them?
20:32 < Ksilebo> Reminds me of some of the stuff I did in the Air Force.
20:32 < newmanbe> msachs: Are you sure it's not Clarus? :-p
20:32 < msachs> If I were doing that, who would be watching backtraces scroll by in GDB? :)
20:33 < msachs> newmanbe: Nah, it's an intern team, that was before their times ;p  It's "Team More Cowbell."
20:33 < Ksilebo> lmao
20:35 < msachs> Yeah, it reminds me of color war from summer camp.
20:35 < msachs> But with more groan-inducing team names.
20:35 < msachs> And the MBA team, which went with a thugged-out theme, but whose team color is pink.
20:36 < Ksilebo> It matched in terminal.plist
20:36 < msachs> Well that's suspicious, open that sucker up.
20:37 < Ksilebo> Affirmative.
20:37 < msachs> If you'd rather use a text editor than the plist editor app, you might need to do plutil -convert xml1 terminal.plist to convert it from the binary format.
20:37 < Ksilebo> Muahaha
20:37 < Ksilebo> I had quicksilver launch it, way ahead of you.
20:37 < Ksilebo> sudo /sw/bin/apt-get -q0 -f install irssi
20:37 < Ksilebo> Under ExecutionString
20:38 < msachs> As I said at the fencing tournament, curses, foiled again.
20:38 < msachs> That sounds like your culprit.
20:38 < Ksilebo> Indeed.
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20:38 < msachs> It would be nice to know how the heck it /got/ there...
20:38 < Ksilebo> Indeed.
20:38 < Ksilebo> I'm going to do a fresh install of OS X tonight.
20:39 < msachs> But I'm going to assume it's either user error or cosmic radiation unless it's reproducible.
20:39 < msachs> Sounds good.
20:39 < Ksilebo> Well, if it does it again, I'll let you know.
20:39 < Ksilebo> I use FInk Commander btw, if that makes any difference.
20:39 < Ksilebo> I like GUIs, but I can use CLI just as well.
20:39 < Ksilebo> For the most part.
20:40 < msachs> I guess we'll find out.
20:40 < Ksilebo> Indeed.
20:40 < Ksilebo> I'll be here
20:40 < msachs> I might not be, my email's msachs@apple.com
20:40 < Ksilebo> k
20:41 < msachs> Or other people can probably help you if they're around.
20:41 < Ksilebo> Gotcha.
20:42 < Ksilebo> Really appreciate your help.
20:43 < Ksilebo> I would have just done the wipe not knowing what the cause was.
20:43 < msachs> Glad to hear it.
20:43 < msachs> Yeah, I hate doing that.
20:44 < Ksilebo> I really suck at sunflower seeds today, I swallowed one that I deshelled now...
20:46 < msachs> Oops.
20:46 < msachs> Some days you just can't win.
20:47 < Ksilebo> Seemingly.
20:47 < msachs> Well I hope your reinstall goes better than your eating.
20:49 < Ksilebo> That's what I'm hoping
20:54 < msachs> k, I'm going home now.  Good luck!
20:54 < Ksilebo> Thanks, take care
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22:55 < CuriosCat> Howdy all
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22:56 < newmanbe> Hello.
22:56 < newmanbe> I'm doing fine.
22:56 < CuriosCat> glad to hear it
22:57 < CuriosCat> I just discovered fink this evening, so playing around with it a bit
22:57 < newmanbe> In MacAddict?
22:57 < CuriosCat> trying to trick oidentd into building under tiger :P
22:57 < newmanbe> dmacks: I'd have Melian welcome you back but she's not here.
22:57 < CuriosCat> newmanbe: Naw, Google told me about it :)
23:07 < dmacks> newmanbe: Yeah:(
23:08 < dmacks> Do you know the URL for the logs other than meme.b9?
23:09 < newmanbe> RangerAway does.
23:09 < dmacks> If only he weren't so...away.
23:09 < newmanbe> Yeah, I know.
23:15 < CuriosCat> So, I am sitting here trying to compile oidentd using Xcode 2.0 on Tiger 10.4.2
23:16 < newmanbe> As in it's not working?
23:16 < CuriosCat> Running into a syntax error with this macro definition:
23:16 < CuriosCat> #       define debug(format,  args...) do { } while (0)
23:16 < newmanbe> STOP!
23:16 < newmanbe> lisppaste: url?
23:16 < lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste.
23:16 < CuriosCat> newmanbe: Relax, it was a single-liner :p
23:16 < newmanbe> Oh, only one line. That should be fine.
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23:17 < CuriosCat> it's just a placeholder defining an empty debug function, but it's using a vararg list, which does not seem to be supported by the preprocessor in Xcode 2.0
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