--- Log opened Sun Aug 14 00:00:07 2005 00:31 -!- KraMer [n=mark@adsl-70-240-239-5.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:32 -!- KraMer [n=mark@adsl-70-240-201-78.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #fink 01:23 -!- eno is now known as eno-away 01:36 -!- newmanbe_ [n=newmanbe@anonymous.genetikayos.com] has joined #fink 01:57 -!- pell [n=pellican@artemis.gaelicwizard.net] has joined #fink 02:01 -!- robbyrussell [n=robbyonr@c-67-160-164-97.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:04 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["leaving"] 02:20 -!- dmacks [n=dmacks@netspace.org] has joined #fink 02:22 < dmacks> Anyone have XCode<1.5 or a 10.2 box, could send me the entry for -Wl,option from the gcc manpage? 02:23 < pell> gcc 2.95? 02:26 < pell> -Wl,option 02:26 < pell> Pass option as an option to the linker. If option contains com- 02:26 < pell> mas, it is split into multiple options at the commas. 02:26 < pell> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.2.8/gcc-937.2/gcc/gcc.1 02:27 < dmacks> Thanks /me always forgets to check there. 02:45 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #fink 02:50 -!- pell [n=pellican@artemis.gaelicwizard.net] has quit [] 02:53 -!- dmacks [n=dmacks@pdpc/supporter/active/dmacks] has quit ["leaving"] 04:03 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["leaving"] 04:19 -!- asari [n=asari@p1081-ipbf908marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #Fink 04:40 -!- geewz [n=gregreed@ppp122-142.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:43 -!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:51 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #fink 05:30 -!- newmanbe [n=newmanbe@tor/session/x-d9af1bd7ff9b7267] has quit [Ping timeout: 14400 seconds] 05:35 -!- ringerc [n=craig@dsl-202-72-144-62.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #fink 05:49 < asari> !seen thesin 05:50 < asari> !seen asari 06:00 -!- chris01 [n=chris01@84-73-56-45.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #fink 06:25 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:33 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@000-411-719.area4.spcsdns.net] has joined #fink 06:48 -!- ramkrsna [n=ramkrsna@61.2.69.8] has joined #fink 07:11 -!- baba_ [n=baba@YahooBB220041000069.bbtec.net] has joined #fink 07:13 -!- baba_ is now known as baba 07:21 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@000-411-719.area4.spcsdns.net] has quit ["leaving"] 07:29 < asari> could anyone teach me about autoconf? 07:31 < ramkrsna> asari, what do you wanna know? 07:31 < asari> I want to have autoconf to generate LIBS="-lportaudio -framework CoreAudio -framework AudioToolBox $LIBS" 07:31 < asari> or something like that 07:34 < asari> ramkrsna: ... am I talking ok? Can you understand me? 07:36 < ramkrsna> asari, kinda got you. 07:38 < asari> ramkrsna: thanks :) 07:40 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@64.241.37.140] has joined #fink 07:42 < asari> hm, just specifying AC_CHECK_LIB(portaudio, Pa_Initialize) don't add any "-framework foo", so link fails there... 07:47 -!- geewz [n=gregreed@ppp122-142.static.internode.on.net] has joined #fink 08:04 -!- newmanbe_ is now known as newmanbe 08:27 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@64.241.37.140] has quit ["leaving"] 08:50 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #fink 09:06 -!- ramkrsna [n=ramkrsna@61.2.69.8] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:12 -!- ringerc [n=craig@dsl-202-72-144-62.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit ["zzzz"] 09:38 -!- geewz [n=gregreed@ppp122-142.static.internode.on.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:33 -!- baba [n=baba@YahooBB220041000069.bbtec.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:40 -!- cirdan [n=chris@pcp04356153pcs.glstrt01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #fink 10:41 < lisppaste> euthydemus pasted "GetDP link error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/10783 10:42 < euthydemus> I was wondering if someone knows what -lcc_dynamic is and where I should find it 10:52 -!- zizban [n=zizban@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #fink 10:53 < chris01> euthydemus: i have no idea... but found something here: 10:53 < chris01> http://lists.apple.com/archives/fortran-dev/2004/Jul/msg00019.html 10:54 -!- Feanor [n=astrange@opendarwin/developer/feanor] has quit ["leaving"] 10:54 < chris01> euthydemus: are you on 10.4? 10:55 < euthydemus> chris01: thanks. google didn't turn up much but I am now finding threads on the macpython and f2py mailing lists that describe the problem. 10:55 < euthydemus> yes, I am running tiger 10:55 < chris01> seems like the symlink is no longer available on Tiger 10:58 < euthydemus> chris01: very informative. what can I do about it? 10:58 < chris01> no idea... 10:58 < euthydemus> thanks though 11:00 < euthydemus> the guy who wrote the email you linked to also responded to my scientificpython-py23 build question so I will try again on the fink-users list 11:25 -!- JosephSpiros [n=joseph@ip-246-036.oberlin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 11:26 -!- asari [n=asari@p1081-ipbf908marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit ["Quitting!"] 11:29 < muesli> hey osx-users 11:29 < muesli> help a newbie osx-developer ,-) 11:29 < muesli> i got my application binary and info.plist and everything in a nice "foobar.app" 11:29 < muesli> how to create a .dmg out of it? 11:29 < muesli> disk utility let's me only select folders 11:29 < muesli> so is this foobar.app already a dmg? 11:30 < muesli> or do i just need to copy the contents of this foobar.app into a seperate folder to create a .dmg? 11:33 -!- JosephSpiros [n=joseph@ip-246-036.oberlin.net] has joined #fink 11:34 < newmanbe> Hi. 11:34 < newmanbe> You would use Disk Utility to create an image from a folder. 11:35 < newmanbe> You would need to put in in anothe folder. 11:35 < newmanbe> And think whether you should really be using Disk Images. 12:06 -!- Albie [n=ambs@bl5-163-140.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #fink 12:13 -!- Albie [n=ambs@bl5-163-140.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:21 < newmanbe> Melian? 12:21 < newmanbe> MELIAN! 12:21 < newmanbe> *sobs* 12:24 < zizban> now now, she'll be back 12:34 -!- JesseW_ [n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/student/JesseW] has joined #fink 12:35 -!- JesseW_ is now known as JesseW 12:35 -!- euthydemus [n=mhough@host86-134-50-131.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:46 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit ["OMGSLEEPYTIEM"] 13:20 -!- JesseW [n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/student/JesseW] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.4/20050511]"] 13:24 -!- akh_ [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #fink 13:25 -!- JesseW_ [n=chatzill@pdpc/supporter/student/JesseW] has joined #fink 13:25 -!- JesseW_ is now known as JesseW 13:27 -!- akh_ [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:37 -!- Albie [n=ambs@82.155.37.149] has joined #fink 14:44 -!- Albie [n=ambs@82.155.37.149] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:45 -!- Albie [n=ambs@bl6-37-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #fink 14:53 -!- zizban [n=zizban@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:57 -!- assassin [n=assassin@unaffiliated/assassin] has quit ["[Peeps peaceOut]"] 14:58 -!- Albie [n=ambs@bl6-37-149.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:01 -!- akh_ [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #fink 15:04 -!- akh_ is now known as akh 15:33 -!- beniamino [n=beniamin@209.233.198.36] has joined #fink 16:41 -!- assassin [n=assassin@unaffiliated/assassin] has joined #fink 16:47 < assassin> Where the hell can I get a copy of install-sh? 17:03 -!- chris01 [n=chris01@84-73-56-45.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 17:03 -!- baba [n=babayosh@YahooBB220041000069.bbtec.net] has joined #fink 17:06 < akh> assassin: The one that Fink runs? 17:07 < akh> (the installer, that is) 17:07 < assassin> akh: no the general one 17:07 < akh> ah 17:07 < assassin> that gnu builds often use 17:08 < akh> hmmm... 17:09 < baba> hi all, how can i get OS version (say 10.4)? 17:09 < akh> uname 17:10 < baba> i know i can get OpenDarwin version, but how? 17:10 < akh> (the Darwin kernel anyway) 17:11 < akh> uname -r gives the simplest output. 17:12 < baba> so if u get 7.9.0, it's 10.3 17:12 < akh> 10.3.9, more precisely. 17:12 < akh> Or there's always "fink list macosx" ;-) 17:14 < baba> oh yes 17:14 < baba> in one of my packages, i need to set MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET 17:14 -!- lane [n=lane@c-24-245-34-84.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #fink 17:14 < akh> ah--there's probably another command, but I don't remember it. 17:15 < assassin> akh: it's included in autoconf 17:16 < akh> assassin: ok 17:19 < lane> Hi all. I just installed fink on my new iBook. I'm having some trouble. It seems that not all of the software is available. I tried doing sudo apt-get install xfree86, and it said "Couldn't find package xfree86." I've done apt-get update. Is there something else I've missed? 17:20 < akh> On Tiger? 17:20 < lane> yup 17:21 < akh> There's no binary version on Tiger: http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/xfree86 17:21 < akh> All is normal. ;-) 17:22 < lane> right. thanks for the pointer 17:22 < lane> so my options are to compile it myself or use Apple's X11? 17:24 < akh> Yes, or compile xorg yourself. 17:25 < lane> ok 17:25 < lane> I'll probably go with Apple X11 then 17:26 < akh> Definitely less time involved to get that going. 17:27 < lane> yeah. that's what I've used before, too 17:28 < baba> and X11SDK 17:28 -!- kane_ [n=kane@perl.xs4all.nl] has joined #fink 17:28 < lane> I just thought that since I was starting fresh I'd go with xorg or xfree86, but it's not worth it to me to compile them. 17:28 < lane> baba: thanks for the reminder. Installing that now, too 17:30 < akh> The X11SDK seems to be default for XCode for Tiger (at least when I've done it) 17:30 < akh> (installing it, that is) 17:31 * akh had to reinstall xorg after overwriting the headers. :\ 17:34 < lane> man, I really like Colloquy. I just installed it, and I'm very pleased. 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Is there either (1) a way to run a .dmg installer remotely or (2) a finkish way to install fink remotely? 20:34 < zizban> you can down the tar ball and bootstrap form the command line 20:36 < wart_> What do you mean by bootstrap? Does OS X have make and configure installed already? 20:37 < Feanor> if you installed the developer tools, it has make and all that 20:38 < Feanor> fink doesn't install them 20:38 < wart_> So I just need to pop in the OS X developer tools? 20:39 < wart_> The disk that is; install those (or call up the people and have them do it) and then I can run configure and make--and voila? 20:39 < wart_> That'd be great 20:40 < Feanor> well, sh ./bootstrap.sh 20:40 < Feanor> and you still have to set up the paths and answer some mirror choices 20:40 < Feanor> but yes 20:40 < zizban> yes 20:42 < wart_> Sweet. 20:42 < wart_> That's great; thanks a lot. 20:45 -!- blobbo [n=blobbo@S0106000502535fbe.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #fink 20:45 < blobbo> hi all 20:45 < blobbo> i want to install x11 on my tiger system. can I download x11 at apple support? or do I have to install from the tiger dvd? I don't have the dvd (on vacation) 20:46 < blobbo> I can wait until i get home, but I wanted to install it here. 20:46 < blobbo> the file in question: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/x11formacosx.html 20:47 < akh> blobbo: That's only for Panther. 20:47 < blobbo> hrmf. I'm going to have to wait until i get home, eh? 20:48 < akh> Yeah--unless they put it up since the last time I've checked. 20:49 < blobbo> oh well, i'll wait. thanks 20:49 -!- blobbo [n=blobbo@S0106000502535fbe.vc.shawcable.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:49 < zizban> I see on Limewire all the time--well, he's gone 20:57 -!- beniamino [n=beniamin@209.233.198.36] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:57 -!- rudy_ [n=rudy@pcp09267002pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net] has joined #fink 21:07 < akh> Ah--always forget about P2P 21:07 * akh wouldn't advocate such a thing in an "official" capacity, of course. ;-) 21:09 < zizban> of course :) 21:11 -!- dmacks [n=dmacks@203-137.dialup.cloud9.net] has joined #fink 21:19 -!- lane [n=lane@c-24-245-34-84.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:20 -!- lane [n=lane@c-24-245-34-84.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #fink 21:44 -!- Jadestorm [n=danielhe@cpe-024-163-106-248.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #fink 21:44 -!- Jadestorm [n=danielhe@cpe-024-163-106-248.nc.res.rr.com] has left #fink [] 21:49 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #fink 21:50 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Client Quit] 21:50 -!- KsiLaptop [n=Obelisk@d14-69-132-59.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #fink 21:58 -!- akh [n=akhansen@68-118-244-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["so tired so very tired"] 22:38 -!- zizban [n=zizban@24-52-0-219.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:41 -!- lane [n=lane@c-24-245-34-84.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:53 -!- katoc [n=katoc@201.145.210.57] has joined #fink 22:53 < katoc> hi all 22:54 < katoc> i read the FAQ and i didnt find my problem 22:54 < dmacks> Your problem is....? 22:59 < katoc> ERROR: Can't copy package description(s). 22:59 < dmacks> Did you see my comments about having spaces in your volume-name? 23:00 < katoc> sorry , no 23:01 < katoc> ### execution of /bin/mv failed, exit code 1 this is the problem too 23:02 < dmacks> Do you have space characters anywhere in your volume name or in the path to which you are installing fink? 23:07 < katoc> (sorry for write too much time, isnt my local language), characters in my volume name?? can you explain me? 23:07 < dmacks> (no problem:) 23:07 < newmanbe> <- spaces 23:08 < dmacks> Where are you installing fink? 23:09 < katoc> darwin 8.0.1 with ./bootstrap.sh /sw 23:10 < dmacks> Try just ./bootstrap.sh 23:12 < katoc> the same!, ### execution of /bin/mv failed, exit code 1 23:12 < dmacks> What does it say before that? 23:12 < katoc> cp: 10.2/*.patch: No such file or directory 23:12 < katoc> cp: 10.2/*.info: No such file or directory 23:12 < katoc> ### execution of /bin/cp failed, exit code 1 23:12 < katoc> ERROR: Can't copy package description(s). 23:12 < newmanbe> lisppaste: url? 23:12 < lisppaste> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/fink and enter your paste. 23:13 < newmanbe> Something like that's probably the limit. 23:13 < dmacks> newmanbe: his fink doesn't recognize his system as 10.4ish 23:13 < newmanbe> Hmm, odd. 23:13 < dmacks> pure-darwin 23:13 < newmanbe> 8.0.1? 23:13 < katoc> yes 23:14 < katoc> darwin puro 23:14 < katoc> pure-darwin 23:14 < lisppaste> katoc pasted "fink error " at http://paste.lisp.org/display/10795 23:15 -!- dmacks_ [n=dmacks@203-137.dialup.cloud9.net] has joined #fink 23:16 < dmacks_> Is there a line that says "Checking system..."? 23:16 -!- dmacks [n=dmacks@pdpc/supporter/active/dmacks] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:16 -!- dmacks_ is now known as dmacks 23:17 < katoc> no, there isnt 23:17 < newmanbe> I'd imagine that msachs has used pure-Darwin with Fink before. 23:17 < newmanbe> 10.2? 23:17 < dmacks> HEAD has been patched for some pure-darwin things. 23:17 < newmanbe> That's odd. 23:17 < katoc> thast what?? 23:18 < dmacks> katoc: The version of fink you have does not understand pure-darwin 8:( 23:18 < katoc> :( 23:18 < katoc> what can i do? 23:19 < dmacks> Ask the fink-devel mailing list. 23:19 < dmacks> Someone (not me) may know how to fix it. 23:20 < dmacks> Tell them what fink version you are using. 23:21 < katoc> fink-0.8.0-full 23:26 < lisppaste> dmacks pasted "newmanbe: host->dist mapping" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/10797 23:26 < newmanbe> Tsk tsk. 23:26 < newmanbe> Isn't there even a % expansion for architechture? 23:26 < dmacks> Sure there is. But we've never fully audited the core or the .info collection to make sure it's used. 23:27 < dmacks> (%m) 23:28 < newmanbe> We're like Microsoft and gopher support in IE! 23:28 < newmanbe> Just disabling it! 23:28 < newmanbe> Or just warning? 23:29 < newmanbe> I suppose this isn't nearly as important though. ;) 23:30 < dmacks> The person who used to do a lot of intel bootstrapping hasn't for a long time, so the code for it fell into disrepair:( Since we no longer support "bootstrapping on OS X 10.2", we scrapped the bootstrap packages for it. But left the code that could set $dist=10.2. Oops. 23:32 < katoc> or ... something likely a fink?? 23:32 < newmanbe> Hmm? 23:32 < newmanbe> I suppose I should look at the mailing lists to day. 23:34 < katoc> :S i dont understand :-q 23:34 < newmanbe> The second statement was directed at no one in particular. 23:36 < newmanbe> I was talking to myself. 23:38 < katoc> ok, mmm i need install gnustep on darwin... and i wanted try with fink,, was i wrong? 23:39 < newmanbe> I do not think that has been packaged. 23:40 < newmanbe> You can try looking for it at http://www.finkproject.org/pdb/ 23:40 < dmacks> katoc: What does 'uname -a' say? 23:40 * newmanbe likes people saying the opposite things on gmane.os.apple.fink.devel :-p 23:41 < dmacks> fink-core cage match!!! 23:41 < katoc> beacuse , i was commented on #opendarwin about this ... and they tell me ... "you should use fink" 23:41 < dmacks> We can sell tickets, use the money to buy a build farm:) 23:42 < newmanbe> dmacks: Oh that reminds me of something... 23:42 < newmanbe> http://www.osuosl.org/ 23:44 < dmacks> dmwaters is female? 23:44 < newmanbe> The freenode staff member? Don't know. 23:44 * dmacks was reading that URL "latest news" item #2. 23:44 < newmanbe> Deedra. Probably. 23:45 < katoc> dmacks, Darwin bicode.local 8.0.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.0.1: Fri Apr 29 12:18:40 PDT 2005; root:xnu-792.obj/RELEASE_I386 x86 i386 23:45 < dmacks> katoc: I don't know anything about gnustep. All I know is fink-0.8.0-full cannot bootstrap on i386. 23:47 < katoc> well , i tell bye to fink... and thanks a lot everybodys!! 23:47 < newmanbe> Goodbye. 23:47 < dmacks> good luck! 23:48 < katoc> see you later! bye 23:48 -!- katoc [n=katoc@201.145.210.57] has left #fink ["Konversation terminated!"] 23:48 < dmacks> newmanbe: lots of docs for gnustep-on-os-x seem to use fink to install some basic libraries. 23:49 < newmanbe> Then they should be making a package for it... 23:49 < dmacks> ya 23:51 -!- katoc [n=katoc@201.145.210.57] has joined #fink 23:52 < katoc> im again!!... 23:52 < katoc> do you know about other software to install and download packages like fink? 23:52 < dmacks> darwinports 23:53 < katoc> and other? 23:53 < newmanbe> Portage for Mac OS X. 23:53 < newmanbe> There was some project on the mailing list along time ago wanting to use a patch too. 23:58 < katoc> i was using opendarwin 7.2.1 and i used darwinports to install gnustep, and i got it!,,, but i tried on darwin pure and it doesnt work 23:58 < katoc> portage??? 23:59 < newmanbe> It is from Gentoo. 23:59 * dmacks mails pogma about putting pure-darwin8 into fink-0.24.9 --- Log closed Mon Aug 15 00:00:36 2005