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07:06 < gecko2> hmmm
07:06 < gecko2> cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sf.net: cvs pserver: cannot read /cvsroot/fink/CVSROOT/config: Input/output error
07:08 < gecko2> whats up with the cvs?
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08:01 < gecko2> hello?
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11:01 < MacinMan> I was wondering in gnome which component creates the default entries for the menus and the icon aasociations, I instealled the fink package of gnome and updating outdated parts  however when i click the applications menu it hilites  bgut no menu appears when i double click an icon such as computer it says it's not associated with anything and i'm not sure what to do about it to fix this 
11:02 < MacinMan> the actions menu works fine on the other hand
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11:52 < shres> *oh joys of upgrading gcc and finding libtool still having hard coded path of some old libraries 
11:52 < MacinMan> is that why gnome is broken?
11:54 < shres> hmmm... dont know. but it is why my local evolution build is broken
11:54 < MacinMan> gcc causes so much breakage at times
11:56 < shres> its just a libtool issue. It does not seem to understand changed paths of libraries. I am not an expert here but i dont think its gcc problem
11:56 < MacinMan> ok
11:57 < MacinMan> libtool can be a problem too though
11:57 < shres> heh, yeah do you know what emerge --oneshot libtool is ?
11:58 < shres> what is emerge ?. i cant find it in my $PATH or anywhere else
11:58 < MacinMan> no
11:58 < MacinMan> does the build actually fail due to that
11:58 < MacinMan> or does it build and fail to run
11:59 < shres> build fails as libtool does a grep on some old path internally to see if the library is present
12:00 < MacinMan> are you on tiger?
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12:06 < MacinMan> wb cirdan
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12:09 < dk0r> Is it possible to make finder view all windows in List mode rather than the default icon mode?
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12:28 < Harlekin> when I updated to tiger from 10.3 and still have fink 0.7.2 a fink selfupdate should be enough?
12:28 < Harlekin> here it says "The file "CURRENT-FINK-10.3" allready exists"
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17:14 < zizban> my daughter's ex girlfriend is visiting today
17:14 < zizban> and we WONT STOP TALKING!!!
17:14 < zizban> he wont
17:14 < zizban> I picked a bad bad to stop sniffing glue
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17:22 < akh> heh
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18:31  * akh hates cvs now.
18:31 < newmanbe> Now?
18:31 < newmanbe> I saw  a sign saying CVS/Pharmacy (for the store/pharmacy); I thought that that was fairly amusing.
18:32 < akh> yup:  My wife used to work at one.
18:32 < akh> We still shop there a lot--do some CVS checkouts.
18:32 < akh> ;-)
18:32 < newmanbe> lol
18:32 < newmanbe> None of those around here.
18:33  * akh released a broken version as the new maintainer.
18:34 < akh> Trying to fix something else that was broken, of course.
18:34 < newmanbe> And bbraun was right. I am a terrorist.
18:34 < newmanbe> Rather Newman Ben is. My name was entered in the computer wrong.
18:35 < akh> Ooo.  Can you sue somebody for that?
18:35 < newmanbe> No, there wasn't much of a delay.
18:36 < newmanbe> I suppose I could sue someone, but I doubt I'd win.
18:36  * akh had a roommate in grad school at UW get pulled over for speeding on University Ave.  Someone of the same name was wanted by the police.
18:36 < akh> Luckily he was about 8" too short to match the description.
18:36 < newmanbe> Name based security is near junk.
18:37 < newmanbe> Like IP address-based security, which is junk.
18:37 < akh> Yup--putting babies on the "do not fly" list.
18:37 < akh> Although...
18:37 < akh> If they put them _all_ on ...
18:38 < newmanbe> Was it campus police?
18:38 < akh> Madison Police
18:38 < newmanbe> Oh, they big shots.
18:38 < akh> He was off campus.
18:38 < newmanbe> Ah.
18:39 < newmanbe> They're not as fun as campus police.
18:39 < akh> No--townie cops generally are less fun, AFAICT
18:40 < akh> Especially when students are involved.
18:40 < newmanbe> That's what I said, they're less fun.
18:41  * akh had a FItchburg cop with a Napoleon complex issue some pretty dire threats when a party I had in grad school got raided.
18:41 < akh> It was a bunch of physics students--how bad could we have been?
18:42 < akh> (answer--we had people rolling down a hill from the back door of my shared townhouse onto a golf course screaming and laughing)
18:42 < newmanbe> Studying the physics of alcohol no less?
18:42 < akh> Yup.
18:43 < akh> biab
18:46 < newmanbe> Why in the word would someone use a MediaWiki for a wiki about Gopher...
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19:36 < akh> newmanbe: Irony/
19:36 < newmanbe> Later in the thread they went back to using telnet-ssl. That was a relief.
19:36 < akh> heh
19:38 < newmanbe> Melian's still not back?
19:38 < drm> akh: since i'm not reading -users or -beginners these days,maybe you can tell me if there are any comments (good or bad) about fink-0.24.9?
19:38 < akh> drm:  Good
19:38 < newmanbe> Ooh? I get to update.
19:38 < akh> People like the swappy feature.
19:39 < newmanbe> I do?
19:39 < akh> I haven't seen any reports of problems that were related to the fink package itself.
19:40 < drm> wasn't sure if they would even notice (it's hard to notice that there are fewer errors than before)
19:40 < newmanbe> gmane get's too many new news groups.
19:41 < akh> drm:  some definitely did.
19:41 < drm> cool
19:41 < newmanbe> Gone four days and thirty four new news groups.
19:41 < akh> newmanbe, heh
19:41 < akh> drm:  So unless something really bad shows up, it looks good for stable.
19:41 < drm> newmanbe: moral of the story: don't go away!
19:42 < newmanbe> Or get newmanbe a laptop that has a functioning power adapter.
19:43 < akh> Yeah, like we've got that kind of money.
19:43 < drm> well, we might be able to afford the adapter
19:43 < newmanbe> You could just get me my third clamshell iBook power adapter.
19:44 < drm> clamshell...ah, fond memories
19:44 < newmanbe> But because of silly technicallities, I don't think I am eligble to get anything for the class action law suit.
19:44 < drm> i still get to visit my old  tangerine clamshell at my sister's house
19:44 < akh> Bummer.
19:44 < akh> (to newmanbe for missing the suit)
19:44 < drm> completely non-functional battery in her case... power adapter required
19:45  * akh was surprised that my powerbook is already "obsolete"
19:45 < akh> I had to go to great lengths to get a new VGA adapter for it.
19:46 < akh> Nothing like finding out your adapter is AWOL right before a talk.
19:46 < drm> hehe
19:46 < newmanbe> I have a power adapter for cars.
19:46 < newmanbe> But that only works, in cars...
19:46 < newmanbe> Yay for Perl being an interpreted language!
19:47 < drm> newmanbe: i once went away for a week without my cellphone charger, and the only one i could get ahold of was a car charger
19:47 < akh> newmanbe:  For <$200, I believe, I found a 120 VAC -> car lighter converter.
19:47 < drm> so each evening, i took the rental car out for a drive in order to recharge the cellphone :)
19:47 < akh> drm:  heh
19:48 < newmanbe> For less than two hundred dollars, you could have gotten a new adapter.
19:48 < akh> newmanbe:  I bought it for something else.
19:49 < akh> I didn't even know it had a car power outlet on it.
19:49 < newmanbe> Fink mirrors get's the countries for North America all wrong.
19:49 < akh> Really?
19:50 < newmanbe> Yes, the United States is not a country.
19:50 < akh> send -core a message.
19:50 < newmanbe> It is a federation.
19:50 < newmanbe> Hmm, doubt many would agree with me.
19:50 < akh> and it's irrelevant to the two-letter code.
19:51 < newmanbe> Not to the four digit plus hyphen though.
19:52 < akh> It works--that's good enough for me.
19:52 < newmanbe> Debian has a lot more mirrors that could be added.
19:52 < akh> send a note to -core.
19:53 < newmanbe> Or perhaps it is too smart and only gives me the mirrosr in North America...
19:55 < drm> newmanbe: have you updated the fink-mirrors package to the new one in unstable?
19:56 < newmanbe> I think so.
19:56 < newmanbe> I had just updated to Fink 0.24.9.
19:57 < newmanbe> Then it also downloaded a (apparently) new version of fink-mirrors.
19:57 < drm> ok
19:57 < newmanbe> fink-mirrors-0.24.8.1
19:58 < drm> that's the one
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