--- Log opened Wed May 24 00:00:32 2006 00:23 -!- urandom [n=eevans@cpe-67-11-141-113.satx.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:24 < Cymba> sorry .. back.. 00:24 < Cymba> is that 'Action' feature available now? 00:26 -!- djgregor [n=dgregor@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/djgregor] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:19 < joed> Cymba: Sorry, Going through compiles, Yes I think so, 01:20 < Cymba> hmm.. interesting.. 01:20 < Cymba> but would it start something on the CLIENT machine tho? 01:21 < joed> Cymba: I really would have too look, I know it can be done in one way or another (Well anything can...) 01:23 < joed> Cymba: I think smbclient would be the closest you have? - I.e a 'PopUp' 01:23 < Cymba> yeah 01:23 * joed AHRRRRRRRRRRG 01:24 * Cymba raises an eyebrow 01:24 < Cymba> that couldnt' have been good :) 01:24 * joed Why does NotifdFactory suddenly act up. 01:24 * joed I'm Swedish. 01:24 < joed> I take compile problems with objects... 01:24 < joed> :) 01:25 < Cymba> hehe 01:25 < joed> I'm working on a syslog daemon. 01:25 < Cymba> By the way had u seen the question I'd asked earlier about the notifications from SNMP traps? 01:25 < joed> No, Sorry? 01:26 < Cymba> oh .. hmm ok lemme paste it back .. cuz Gregor wasn't too too sure 01:26 < Cymba> " ok here's my issue, we have a number of switches (no not Cisco) that toss out SNMP traps. I've already gone as far as creating event .xml files for them etc and they're being translated properly in NMS. When I'm creating the notifications for them tho I notice its still asking me about services. If I don't choose any it says all services. This makes it sound like the notification I'm creating will only fire if ICMP or shummin for that s 01:27 < joed> Oh- Djgregor? - that is kinda sorta one of the primary pillars of wisdom....... 01:27 < Cymba> heh I realise :) 01:27 < joed> Oh, Yes, A trap without a service is a Generic trap 01:28 < joed> If you have a trap pattern like in OID = 1.1.1.1.% 01:28 < joed> The % Matches the rest of it -? 01:29 < joed> Then without a specific/general You'll never hit anything else. 01:29 < joed> That may be down to a 'bad' MIB or just plain 'dumb' snmp implementation? 01:30 < joed> If the events are okay, I normally use a snmpd to trap the answers, try and see what actually is sent versus documentation 01:30 < joed> and modify the events. 01:31 < Cymba> hmm 01:31 < joed> That is 'tedious' but very,very,very valuable 01:31 < joed> Cause it can be put back in :) 01:31 < Cymba> heh.. well actually my problem is that I want it to send a notification to the various paths when that SNMP trap is recieved 01:32 < Cymba> wasn't sure how to set up the notification to allow that 01:32 < joed> Oh. 01:32 < Cymba> so u're saying to deselect all services? 01:32 < joed> No, 01:32 < joed> I'd copy what you have 01:33 < joed> and kinda sorta permutate the notifs. 01:33 < joed> The notifs I think are built on group and UEI, If you like a few, copy em' change name and check? 01:34 < joed> That to me is VI'ish. 01:34 < Cymba> well I already see the notifs for the traps come up in the list 01:34 < joed> Which is good? 01:34 < Cymba> they're using the same labels as specified int he events.xml file I created from the NE's MIBS 01:35 < joed> Oh, Notif != Event, you can set different rules. 01:35 < Cymba> so lets say for arguments sake that I choose the VLX2020 ReportAlarm Notification... and set that up 01:35 < joed> That being a MUX? 01:35 < Cymba> but its asks me what 'services' it should fire on .. 01:36 < joed> Okay. 01:36 < Cymba> which doesn't make sense 01:36 < joed> Hmm. 01:36 < joed> You need to define a scope. 01:36 < Cymba> I Want it to send the notification when the alarm is recieved.. because ICMP might still be up but the fibre might be disconnected.. hence the SNMP alarm 01:37 < joed> Are you reporting on Threshold/Responsetime? 01:37 < Cymba> no 01:37 < Cymba> the only thing I'm doing with this device is listening for SNMP traps from it and ICMP.. 01:38 < Cymba> it doesn't implement full SNMP to external agents... just trap 01:38 < Cymba> traps 01:38 < Cymba> and I have the mibs for those traps 01:38 < joed> Hmm, Okay, So - We are looking for 'events' The Poller will not see the 'event', It may see a change, the trapd could act on a message to send a notifd. 01:39 < joed> If you have the mibs, /opt/opennms/bin/mib2xml or something like that. 01:39 < Cymba> poller most likely not see a change of any of the services on the device 01:39 < joed> That would give you an events file. 01:39 < Cymba> done that .. 01:39 < Cymba> and its working 01:39 < joed> But not setting severity? 01:39 < Cymba> because the traps are being translated properly int he events list for the node 01:40 < Cymba> I set the severity as well 01:40 < Cymba> all of that is fine.. 01:40 < joed> Okay, so then notifd should pick up? 01:40 < Cymba> the prob is now how to tell ONMS to send a notification if it recieves a high enuff severity 01:41 < joed> Let me look a little. - I think (I hope) I uderstand. 01:41 < Cymba> heh ok 01:42 < joed> I'm just hoping that is not a Trapd Change. 01:42 < Cymba> I think I've done it .. I was just worried about it asking me about the services it should look for 01:42 < joed> Oh - Then I know, Don't worry about the service. 01:42 < Cymba> cuz notifying me of a specif trap being recieved has nothing to do with what services are on the box 01:43 < joed> The services in trapd are a bit tied to I think the services table. 01:43 < joed> Service != node only in search I think. 01:44 < joed> So reporting on a node is perfectly fine ( Please confirm this with someone in OGP) 01:44 < Cymba> okies 01:44 < joed> I make any sense? 01:44 < joed> :) 01:44 < Cymba> somewhat :) 01:45 < joed> LOL 01:45 < joed> Sorry. 01:45 < joed> I'm trying to say, I think you are doing the right thing. 01:45 < Cymba> heh I think so too just wanted confirmation 01:45 < Cymba> well we'll see when the next alarm trap comes up 01:45 < joed> Notifs are onry, but very flexible 01:46 < joed> I tied mine to categories. 01:46 < Cymba> oh? 01:52 < Cymba> By the way .. in the text message area of a notif.. u can use %nodelabel% etc.. is there a way to put parameters recieved from the traps in the message as well? 01:52 < joed> Yes, You can put the params in there. 01:53 < joed> The generic trap does all of them. 01:53 < Cymba> ahh so just copy those varnames from the generic trap then .. 01:53 < Cymba> good 01:54 < joed> Yes, You can actually (Which for debugging is nice) do all of them. 01:54 < joed> I.e Name,Value 01:55 < Cymba> that'll make my life a lot easier.. because the device only has a generic Alarm trap then sends the details in the params 01:55 < Cymba> so I thought I'd have to create events for every possible important one by matching the params 01:55 < joed> %parm[all]%& 01:55 < Cymba> this way I can just put the params in the notif 01:55 < Cymba> yup 01:56 < joed> Oh, No You'd want to try and match events based on OID? 01:56 < joed> The string above gives you 'all' that is sent 01:57 < Cymba> not OID.. the OID is the same ... "ReportAlarm" but the params are what tell u what the actual alarm is 01:57 < joed> Ah. 01:57 < joed> Then - It does I personally think get trickier as that is not a 'SNMP' implementation? 01:58 < joed> :) 01:58 < Cymba> nope... I'm very annoyed with them 01:58 < joed> Can we possibly eradicate them? 01:58 < Cymba> I guess they want u to use the monitoring software that they sell with the device 01:58 < joed> Are they polling or trapping? 01:59 < Cymba> but we already have OpenNMS, it saves the techs having to wathc multiple apps 01:59 < joed> Their software? - 01:59 < Cymba> both I think .. but it uses proprietary protocolls for that I beleive 01:59 < Cymba> only SNMP they do is traps 01:59 < joed> Hmm. 02:00 < joed> Have you looked at the traps in debug? or through net-snmp trapd? 02:00 < Cymba> debug 02:00 < Cymba> I have all the traps captured form their mibs.. 02:02 < joed> Have you done the same with net-snmp Trapd? --- Sometimes it 'differs' 02:05 < Cymba> hmm ok I'll take a look 02:05 < Cymba> but what would I be lookign for? 02:06 < joed> On the Avocent (Keyboard KVM) I saw different ends and alarms within the same oid....... 02:07 < joed> I think what I'm saying is that if the Trap from a device is 'broken' fixing it in source may be 'tricky' 02:08 < Cymba> well its no problem for me as long as I can specify the the params as well 02:09 < joed> :) 02:09 < joed> So you are safe. 02:09 < Cymba> about to try it now.. tho I really should be going to bed.. its 1:10am here 02:09 < Cymba> and I have work later 02:09 < joed> the PDU Vars are easily accessible. 02:10 < joed> It's more than that here... 02:10 < joed> :) 02:10 < Cymba> where are u ? 02:10 < joed> I'm on EST 02:10 < joed> PA 02:10 < Cymba> ahh I'm in JA 02:10 < joed> I saw you logon, how is the weather? 02:11 < Cymba> hot . :| 02:11 < joed> :) 02:11 < joed> And normal? 02:11 < joed> :) 02:11 < Cymba> hehe essentially yes :) 02:11 < joed> We just got over tropical here. 02:11 < Cymba> its gonna get worse later on 02:11 < joed> So.... I guess salsa in a month. 02:11 < Cymba> hehe 02:12 < Cymba> ok well thanks for all ur help joed, I'll let u know how it went later :) 02:17 -!- Cymba [n=dstephen@port0245-abh-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has quit [] 02:18 -!- gvainfo [n=gvainfo@AGrenoble-257-1-65-118.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #opennms 02:26 -!- gvainfo [n=gvainfo@AGrenoble-257-1-65-118.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 03:32 < victor_> hi, is there a fast fix of " 03:33 < victor_> hi, is there a fast fix of "/usr/java/jakarta-tomcat-4.1.31/work/Standalone/localhost/opennms/admin/sched-outages/editoutage_jsp.java:497: as of release 1.5, 'enum' is a keyword, and may not be used as an identifier 03:33 < victor_> uhm.. 03:33 < victor_> that paste weird.. 03:33 < victor_> +was 03:33 < victor_> it says something about using -source 1.4 to get it to accept it.. 06:56 -!- sartin [n=jsartin@pdpc/supporter/active/sartin] has joined #opennms 06:56 < sartin> morning chaps. 07:08 < sartin> anyone know if trapd can handle v2c/v3 informs? 07:11 -!- brozow_ [n=brozow@cpe-069-134-209-239.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #opennms 07:21 -!- brozow [n=brozow@cpe-069-134-209-239.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:34 -!- tazman_ [n=Ted@ool-457de4b2.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:03 -!- joed [i=1000@c-68-80-31-81.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:11 -!- mhuot [n=mhuot@pdpc/supporter/active/mhuot] has joined #opennms 08:32 -!- brozow_ [n=brozow@cpe-069-134-209-239.nc.res.rr.com] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 08:35 -!- joed [n=joed@193.221.76.7] has joined #opennms 08:40 -!- drv4doe [n=david@server1.opennms.org] has joined #opennms 08:48 -!- mhuot [n=mhuot@pdpc/supporter/active/mhuot] has quit [] 09:02 < victor_> how about this question then.. is it possible to have several low thresholds for the same datasource/node? 09:04 * joed Is there a build problem in trunk? I get an init() error on Notifd.... 09:19 < drv4doe> joed: what's the init() error? I haven't built trunk this week... I'll do it in later today. 09:21 < joed> drv4doe: I think I actually goofed. I just realized that my SVN last night pooped. 09:38 -!- Sortova [n=tarus@66.45.100.223] has joined #opennms 09:40 < mhandler> Anybody have info on DevJam 2006? When? Where? 09:41 < Sortova> Last week in July, San Antonio 09:41 < Sortova> I think (grin) 09:41 < Sortova> Got that from the topic 09:42 < mhandler> I searched "DevJam" on the wiki and found nothing of substance. 09:43 < drv4doe> mhandler: we're working on that... should have something of substance early next week. 09:43 < mhandler> I might be able to get my employer to spring for a trip to San Antonio. 09:44 < drv4doe> brozow and I discussed finished up objectives last night... I just need to get the program together. 09:44 < mhandler> cool 09:46 < Sortova> I just wrote our Rackspace hosts to confirm the dates 09:46 < Sortova> Once I get that, I'll block out a set of hotel rooms 09:46 < Sortova> Then we can publish it 09:46 < Sortova> mhandler: You interested in coming? That would be cool 09:47 < sfb> Those two nodes I deleted? Yeah. Still there. 09:47 < mhandler> Sortova: yep, if my employer will spring for it and it fits into my family's schedule 09:47 < mhandler> Sortova: I'd like to meet the Rackspace guys, too, since I've been messing with xmlrpcd. 09:54 < sartin> Sortova: so we're confirmed for the 22rd->29th? 09:59 -!- mhuot [n=mhuot@pdpc/supporter/active/mhuot] has joined #opennms 09:59 < sfb> Heya mhuot 09:59 < mhuot> heya! 09:59 < mhuot> Our EMC Centera took a nap last night 09:59 < sfb> A nap? haha 10:00 < mhuot> Yea, it decided to stop accepting writes 10:03 -!- brozow [n=brozow@cpe-069-134-209-239.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #opennms 10:03 < drv4doe> mhuot: it took a dirt nap? 10:04 < brozow> w00t! 10:05 < joed> brozow! 10:06 < drv4doe> customer that I'm working with has 2 of these setup in operations: http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/LG_Electronics-DU-42PX12XC.htm 10:06 < drv4doe> I can't believe resolution is only 1024x768 10:09 < Sortova> sartin: Not yet - working on it. You were the only one who had doubts (preferring the week before) 10:09 < Sortova> mhuot: bah. writes/smites 10:10 < Sortova> drv4doe: that the resolution on my 12" PB 10:14 < Sortova> drv4doe, brozow: check your efax mail 10:17 < mhuot> drv4doe: Indeed 10:17 -!- sfb [n=RAYKOWSK@12.31.138.144] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:17 * brozow has no efax mail 10:18 -!- sfb-work [n=RAYKOWSK@12.31.138.144] has joined #opennms 10:25 < brozow> hmm.. looks to me like I haven't gotten an efax yet this year 10:27 < drv4doe> brozow: ? 10:27 < Sortova> brozow: sent it to ya 10:28 * Sortova does the PO dance of happiness. 10:28 -!- creiht [n=cthier@nat-vlan0201.sat4.rackspace.com] has joined #opennms 10:29 * drv4doe tries no not imagine Sortova dancing (grin) 10:30 * drv4doe is ecstatic that he feels like dancing, however. 10:30 < Sortova> hey, I'm thinking about entering that there "So ya think ya can dance" show 10:33 < drv4doe> your dancing couldn't be any worse than mine! 10:35 < Sortova> drv4doe: I've seen you dance, remember? With the strip^H^H^H^H^H hot chick at JBoss World? 10:37 < brozow> cool about the PO now Dave and I won't be the only one's staying up all night working! 10:37 < brozow> jk 10:38 < Sortova> Bob's ordering the 24x7 pager now 10:44 < drv4doe> Sortova: sssshhhhh 10:47 < sfb-work> How long before I'm invited to attend OpenNMS World ? 10:47 < Sortova> sfb-work: Let me check the number of patches you've submitted in bugzilla 10:47 * Sortova grins 10:47 < drv4doe> sfb-work: consider yourself invited. 10:47 < Sortova> sfb-work: We are working to firm up the dates 10:47 < Sortova> sfb-work: How about tomorrow 10:48 < Sortova> Perhaps today 10:48 < sfb-work> haha 10:49 < sfb-work> I've submitted an enhancement! 10:49 < sfb-work> haha 10:49 < sfb-work> I'd love to go to DevJam but I simply cannot this year. Next year have one here in MN. (= 10:49 < mhandler> In February. 10:50 < Sortova> If I am coming to MN I'm coming when mhuot's boat is in the water 10:50 * Sortova likes sailboats. Dey purty 10:51 < sfb-work> hehe 10:51 < drv4doe> and the water isn't frozen 10:51 < sartin> Sortova: I'll send you a picture of Eddie steering a boat in Sardinia 10:52 < sartin> sure handled better than a tent.... 10:52 < Sortova> sartin: I have a picture of him steering a boat at the Observatory (grin) 10:52 < Sortova> sartin: I saw an episode of "Are You Being Served?" where they had to put up a Marquee - we did a better job of it 10:52 < sartin> oh yeah. I remember now... 11:03 -!- jeffg [n=jeffg@paleale.networkgeek.org] has joined #opennms 11:03 < Sortova> w00t! 11:03 < jeffg> w00t! 11:06 -!- sfb-work [n=RAYKOWSK@12.31.138.144] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:22 -!- sfb [n=mattr@12.31.138.144] has joined #opennms 11:26 -!- djgregor [n=dgregor@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/djgregor] has joined #opennms 11:37 < jeffg> djgregor! 11:38 * gcc concludes his 77 days of idleness 11:38 < gcc> it's amazing what you find running in screens 11:43 < djgregor> jeffg! 11:59 < mhuot> djgregor! Did you fix it yet? 11:59 < djgregor> heh 12:07 < Sortova> gcc! 12:24 < djgregor> error: no input files 12:39 -!- angom_w [n=angom@red-corp-200.79.150.226.telnor.net] has joined #opennms 12:48 < brozow> woot 12:50 < djgregor> w00t 12:54 < djgregor> brozow: try xsddocs now 12:55 < brozow> ok 12:55 < Sortova> djgregor: You got a sec to chat on NRPE? 12:55 -!- J-Bob [n=bjensen@66.45.100.223] has joined #opennms 12:55 < djgregor> Sortova: yeah, sure 12:55 < brozow> J-Bob! 12:56 < Sortova> djgregor: What's the "command" and "padding" mean? 12:56 < J-Bob> w00t 12:56 < Sortova> J-Bob has the NSClient stuff working well 12:56 < djgregor> Sortova: command is the remote command to execute on the NRPE daemon 12:56 < djgregor> padding... well, now that's fun 12:56 < Sortova> _NRPE_CHECK? That's a command? 12:57 < djgregor> Sortova: it's a built-in command. The only one, I think. 12:57 < Sortova> Ah 12:57 < djgregor> The NRPE over-the-wire format is a C structure 12:57 < Sortova> so, the implementer would use _MY_NRPE_COMMAND 12:57 < djgregor> And it seems to have an extra two bytes of padding on all of the systems that I've used 12:57 < djgregor> No, the impelmenter would use "check_disk" or whatever 12:57 < djgregor> it would match what they have in their nrped.conf file 12:58 < Sortova> but _NRPE_CHECK works? i.e. it's not just an "example"? 12:58 < djgregor> yes, _NRPE_CHECK is an internal command in the nrpe daemon 12:58 < Sortova> cool 12:58 < djgregor> it's also the default command that the Nagios check_nrpe client queries if a specific command isn't queried 12:59 < Sortova> heh, just checking that NRPE is available? 12:59 < Sortova> It's an agent that exists to say that it exists, in other words 12:59 * Sortova grins 13:01 < brozow> djgregor: xsddoc seems to be fine now.. thanks 13:01 < mhuot> djgregor: Thanks! 13:03 < djgregor> sorry guys 13:03 < djgregor> I didn't expect that at all 13:03 < brozow> np 13:03 < mhuot> np 13:03 < mhuot> Just fun to harass you 13:03 < brozow> it was easy enought to got back a revision 13:04 < brozow> s/[^i]t //g 13:04 < Sortova> Nobody expects ..... 13:04 < mhuot> Sortova: Comfy chair? 13:04 < Sortova> heh 13:05 < brozow> oops.. that should have been s/([^i])t /\1 /g 13:06 < mhandler> brozow: Boy am I glad you said 4 spaces on the devel list. 13:06 < brozow> oh? 13:06 * Sortova goes to read the devel list - buncha geeks 13:06 < mhandler> personal thing -- I don't like 8 space indentation 13:06 < mhuot> I prefer 5 13:06 < Sortova> I like 17 13:07 < Sortova> prime 13:07 < mhandler> course, I used to work with a guy who used one-space indentation in an effort to cram as much as he could onto his screen 13:07 < Sortova> bigger prime than mhuot's 13:07 < brozow> yeah.. I used to use 2 but that seems like most of the code is 4 13:07 < Sortova> mhandler: Makes it easier to read (grin) 13:07 < brozow> 2 is also prime by the way 13:07 < brozow> but 4 is a perfect square 13:07 < mhuot> But two is soooo small 13:07 < Sortova> mhuot: speaking from experience? 13:07 < mhandler> It's not the size of your prime number that matters. It's how you use it. 13:07 < brozow> use a larger font 13:08 * Sortova sets font to 48 13:08 < mhuot> Sortova has to compensate with 17 13:08 < Sortova> W 13:08 < Sortova> O 13:08 < Sortova> W 13:08 < brozow> I pretty must like the default eclipse style... except for the tabs and the line length 13:08 < mhuot> Sortova: So what did you and urandom do with that lotion in his office? 13:08 < brozow> s/must/much/ 13:09 * Sortova doesn't kiss and tell 13:11 < mhuot> 'nuf said 13:13 < brozow> mhuot: any luck with that IO stuff you were doing? 13:14 < mhuot> Not yet, I ended up being dragged into some other things...I am hoping later this afternoon to get back to it. 13:16 < brozow> ok 13:28 < Sortova> brozow: I forget, what log holds queue stats? 13:28 < brozow> uncategoried 13:28 < brozow> s/ie/ize/ 13:31 < Sortova> QS: , overallEnqueueRate=(59/0/59), overallDequeueRate=(59/0/59), overallItemDequeRate=21, overallOpsPerUpdate=2.694597056972825, overallPrcntSignificant=100.0%, totalElapsedTime=74521 [7.764 sec] 13:31 < Sortova> sweet 13:31 < Sortova> keeping up at SE 13:32 -!- gvainfo [n=gvainfo@AGrenoble-257-1-75-91.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #opennms 13:32 < brozow> is he collecting on all of the nodes yet? 13:32 < brozow> or still just the Access Controllers 13:32 < brozow> that would be him. yes 13:32 < gvainfo> hello everybody 13:32 < jeffg> gvainfo! 13:33 < brozow> gvainfo! 13:33 < gvainfo> drv4doe, sortova: broken hdd will be replaced on friday, until then we don't run raid on one spindle 13:38 -!- sartin [n=jsartin@pdpc/supporter/active/sartin] has quit ["night folks..."] 13:40 < Sortova> gvainfo: don't you have a spare (grin) 13:40 < gvainfo> Sortova normally our applications do not eat so many harddrives. 13:41 < Sortova> gvainfo: But you told me you buy them at WalMart 13:42 < gvainfo> Sortova: yes, but so far nobody noticed. 13:54 < J-Bob> Deej: got an error with NRPE monitor. I was able to discover the service with capsd, but I am getting this in the poller log: 13:54 < J-Bob> 2006-05-24 13:53:02,216 DEBUG [PollerScheduler-30 Pool-fiber6] NrpeMonitor: NrpeMonitor: connected to host: /172.20.1.16 on port: 5666 13:54 < J-Bob> 2006-05-24 13:53:02,227 DEBUG [PollerScheduler-30 Pool-fiber6] NrpeMonitor: poll: IOException while polling address: /172.20.1.16 13:54 < J-Bob> at org.opennms.netmgt.poller.monitors.NrpeMonitor.poll(NrpeMonitor.java:277) 13:55 < brozow> Sortova: do you know if those QS stats are collecting for all nodes? or just ACs? 14:06 < djgregor> J-Bob: no details on the poller error? 14:07 < Sortova> brozow: nope 14:07 < Sortova> brozow: current errors on TE 14:07 < brozow> ok 14:09 < J-Bob> dj: not sure what you are asking...do you want another log entry? 14:12 < brozow> J-Bob: does the next few lines in the log have more details of the failure.. often it does 14:13 < djgregor> J-Bob: are there any details about the exception after that one? 14:13 < djgregor> heh 14:13 * djgregor == brozow 14:13 < brozow> lol.. sorry... jumped into the conversation uninvited 14:13 < djgregor> heh, that's totally fine 14:13 < djgregor> I do that all th etime. :-) 14:13 < djgregor> And I'm slow while in this class 14:16 < J-Bob> dj: I am looking... 14:16 -!- drv4doe [n=david@server1.opennms.org] has left #opennms ["Leaving"] 14:16 < mhandler> djgregor: what class are you in? 14:19 < djgregor> mhandler: training for http://www.voltage.com/ 14:32 < J-Bob> deej: I had to turn off the "require ssl" option on the nrpe daemon and the service polled correctly and show as up 14:39 < djgregor> mhandler: indenting: http://web.archive.org/web/20050306110319/ccm.redhat.com/doc/core-platform/5.0/engineering-standards/s1-file-syntax.html#S2-INDENTING 15:00 -!- Razor7 [n=chatzill@64.90.73.76] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:00 -!- Razor7__ [n=chatzill@64.90.73.76] has joined #opennms 15:00 -!- Razor7__ is now known as Razor7 15:16 -!- djgregor [n=dgregor@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/djgregor] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:17 < brozow> looking at those standards.. I say.. never have conditionals that are so difficult to get the indentation correct... no one can figure out what they mean anyway 15:17 < brozow> make a method that reveals the intention of all those conditions 15:36 * jeffg sycophantically agrees with brozow on conditional indentation 16:14 -!- djgregor [n=dgregor@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/djgregor] has joined #opennms 16:15 -!- gvainfo [n=gvainfo@AGrenoble-257-1-75-91.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 16:17 < brozow> sycophantically? 16:18 < sfb> Hey. Any of you guys have a data management policy that I could get a copy of to use as a reference? 16:18 < brozow> LOL on sycophantically! 16:31 -!- ski98033 [n=ski98033@70.78.130.253] has joined #opennms 16:32 -!- ski98033 [n=ski98033@70.78.130.253] has left #opennms [] 16:38 < Sortova> I was just invited to get a free subscription to Information Week! 16:38 < Sortova> a $200 value! 16:43 < Sortova> Can anyone give me a little svn help? 16:43 < Sortova> If I modified something in cvs 16:43 < Sortova> and then did a "cvs up" 16:43 < Sortova> it's show the files I modified with an "M" 16:43 < Sortova> how do I get svn to do that? 16:44 < Sortova> revert looks promising 16:46 -!- djgregor [n=dgregor@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/djgregor] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:06 < brozow> revert erases your changes... 17:07 < brozow> svn status is also interesting 17:08 < Sortova> brozow: perfect! 17:13 -!- angom_w [n=angom@red-corp-200.79.150.226.telnor.net] has left #opennms [] 17:20 -!- joed [n=joed@193.221.76.7] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:24 -!- tedkaz [n=tedkaz@216-175-208-92.client.dsl.net] has joined #opennms 17:24 -!- tedkaz is now known as tazman 17:24 < tazman> w00t! 17:26 < mhuot> taz!!! 17:29 < Sortova> taz!! 17:30 < Sortova> Long time, bubba 17:40 -!- gvainfo [n=gvainfo@AGrenoble-257-1-75-91.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #opennms 17:57 < J-Bob> \q 17:57 < J-Bob> \quit 17:57 -!- J-Bob [n=bjensen@66.45.100.223] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:00 < gvainfo> bye 18:00 -!- gvainfo [n=gvainfo@AGrenoble-257-1-75-91.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #opennms [] 18:05 < jnitis> Tarus: Have fun in Korea, you lucky duck. :) 18:07 -!- djgregor [n=dgregor@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/djgregor] has joined #opennms 18:08 < djgregor> w00t! 18:09 < jnitis> There will be much wooting when it's 6PM and I'm leaving th confines of my cube and donning my cleats. ;) 18:09 < jeffg> djgregor: w00t! 18:10 < jeffg> Sortova: wow, what a coincidence, i too got an iWeek offer in yesterday's post. 18:10 < Sortova> Amazing! 18:10 < Sortova> You can save $200 as well 18:11 < jeffg> i'm sure it's worth every penny, so i'm just going to send them a check. 18:11 < Sortova> At least there are no ads 18:11 < jeffg> boy, it's getting deep fast 18:12 < djgregor> Is it because I showed up? 18:12 < jeffg> any of you RDU denizens ever heard of a company called P4 performance management? 18:12 < jeffg> djgregor: we're talking about a different kind of deep 18:13 < Sortova> jeffg: Heh, yeah 18:13 < Sortova> (long story) 18:13 < Sortova> We have talked with them about a potential partnership 18:14 < jeffg> should i have any reservations about taking a contract from them? 18:14 < Sortova> Hrm 18:14 < Sortova> I can't endorse them, but I won't recommend against them either 18:15 < Sortova> They seem nice enough 18:15 < Sortova> Tell 'em you work with OpenNMS, mebbe you get a discout 18:15 < jeffg> actually a contract in the other direction, with me as the vendor 18:15 < jeffg> might i get a rate increase? :-D 18:16 < jeffg> brb 18:18 < Sortova> mebbe 18:21 -!- mhuot [n=mhuot@pdpc/supporter/active/mhuot] has quit [] 18:22 < jeffg> Sortova: thanks for the info. 18:22 < jnitis> Is it perforce.com or some other company that purports to ue perforce in a new way? 18:22 < Sortova> We've been chatting with Tony Pomliano, jeffg, if that helps 18:28 < jeffg> Sortova: my contact is a guy named Bryan Ireton in Ohio. haven't spoken with him yet, just trying to get a feel for the company since i am (discarding modesty) a perfect fit for their needs. 18:31 < jeffg> jnitis: if your question was for me, there is no mention of perforce in what i have seen regarding the project i'm looking at. 18:31 < Sortova> They seem pretty cool, they *get* us at least 18:32 < jeffg> Sortova: that says a lot (in a good way!) 18:34 < purevol> hi folks 18:34 < Sortova> NSClient and NRPE working in stable. Can I get a w00t? 18:34 < purevol> w00t 18:34 < purevol> that is rad, im gonna work on that a bit later myself 18:35 < purevol> ive actually just got all the devices purged and a rescan done, i configured the notifications, and tried took a service and server offline, but its not telling me anything 18:35 < purevol> anyone have any thoughts on why this might be? 18:39 < jeffg> w00t! 18:39 * jeffg packs up and tiptoes out 30 mins early for geek beer night 18:39 < purevol> geek beer is always good 18:40 < Sortova> purevol: hrm 18:40 < Sortova> purevol: look in the pollers.log file 18:40 < purevol> i can do that 18:40 < Sortova> purevol: you should see it polling everything 18:40 -!- jeffg [n=jeffg@pdpc/supporter/active/jeffg] has quit ["damn, it's almost quarter 'til beer!"] 18:40 < Sortova> purevol: and by default it takes up to 5 minutes to poll 18:40 < jnitis> jeffg: Right, it's my fault: I misread earlier. 18:41 < purevol> what am i looking for? 18:41 < purevol> 2006-05-24 14:59:45,177 DEBUG [PollerScheduler-30 Pool] Scheduler: run: no interfaces scheduled, waiting... 18:41 < purevol> hrm 18:41 < jnitis> D'oh and he already left. 18:43 < purevol> everything appears to be "active" in the configure pollers 18:44 < Sortova> That's not good 18:44 < Sortova> did you modify the poller-configuration.xml file? 18:45 < purevol> no, i was just looking at that 18:45 < purevol> > 18:46 < Sortova> And you have nodes in the webUI? 18:46 < purevol> i need to look at the manual and see whats up with that 18:46 < Sortova> The ns11 stuff? 18:46 < purevol> yes all the nodes are in the webUI 18:46 < Sortova> run $OPENNMS_HOME/bin/xml.reader.pl -w [filename] 18:46 < Sortova> It'll clean it up some 18:46 < Sortova> cd to the log directory 18:47 < Sortova> look for ERROR and FATAL messages 18:47 < Sortova> good luck - I have to go before I get divorced 18:47 < purevol> yeah i dont see any error or fatal messages 18:47 -!- Sortova [n=tarus@pdpc/supporter/active/Sortova] has quit ["hometime"] 18:47 < purevol> thanks Sortova 18:50 -!- drv4doe [n=david@server1.opennms.org] has joined #opennms 18:53 * purevol ain't here: I have wandered off, or am otherwise occupied 19:02 -!- creiht [n=cthier@nat-vlan0201.sat4.rackspace.com] has quit [] 19:06 < purevol> this is wack 19:10 -!- brozow_ [n=brozow@cpe-069-134-209-239.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #opennms 19:15 < purevol> do you have to configure each interface/service in poll-outages.xml ? 19:17 -!- brozow [n=brozow@cpe-069-134-209-239.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:17 -!- brozow_ is now known as brozow 19:22 < purevol> this is really weird 19:33 -!- urandom [n=eevans@cpe-67-11-141-113.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #opennms 19:37 -!- joed [i=1000@c-68-80-31-81.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #opennms 19:42 -!- drv4doe [n=david@server1.opennms.org] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:53 < purevol> does anyone know if i have to manually change an polling intervals? becuase this should be wrking but it isnt 20:02 < purevol> does anyone know why notifications/pollers may not be working 20:09 < purevol> does example1 in poller-configuration.xml need to be changed 20:10 < brozow> no 20:10 < purevol> so basically this file by default should just "work" 20:10 < brozow> as long as the services are discovered on the nodes... 20:10 < brozow> no services... no polling... 20:11 < purevol> yes according to the webUI FTP is a service on this specific node, we stopped FTPD and its not notifying or showing red in the webUI or anything 20:12 < brozow> what version are you running? 20:13 < purevol> 1.2.7-1 20:13 < brozow> and you didn't found and ERROR, FATAL or Exceptions in any of the logs? 20:13 < purevol> nope 20:14 < brozow> try stopping tomcat and then opennms 20:14 < brozow> then start opennms again and check the logs again 20:14 < purevol> ok 20:14 < brozow> tail manager.log and pollers.log 20:15 < purevol> ok 20:19 * joed Is FTP a monitored service be default? Like SMB... 20:20 < purevol> 2006-05-24 17:15:20,980 INFO [main] Pollers: Could not find service monitor associated with service SSH 20:20 < purevol> i have that for all the services 20:21 < brozow> hmm... wel that's probably not good... are you running Sun's java or another? 20:21 < purevol> 1.5.0_06 Sun Microsystems Inc. 20:22 < brozow> hmm... well I'm not sure how that works... does poller-configuration.xml list one for SSH? 20:22 < purevol> yes, i have that for all the services 20:22 < purevol> that same INFO message 20:23 < purevol> 2006-05-24 17:15:20,981 INFO [main] Pollers: Could not find service monitor associated with service ICMP 20:23 < purevol> etc etc 20:24 < brozow> hmm... seem likely it has trouble parsing poller-configuration.xml 20:24 < brozow> look for exceptoins 20:24 < purevol> ive got no exceptions 20:24 < brozow> any errors? 20:24 < purevol> no errors 20:31 < purevol> this is totally weird 20:31 < purevol> im going to pay for support from opennms but i cant do that until i can prove this works 20:31 < purevol> i got approved for $5000/yr for support 20:34 < purevol> this is totally annoying 20:34 < brozow> is there a class in opennms_services.jar that has the same name as the one listed as in the monitor section for SSH? 20:35 < brozow> do jar -tvf opennms_services.jar 20:35 < brozow> btw.. what OS is this? 20:35 -!- urandom [n=eevans@cpe-67-11-141-113.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:37 < purevol> ManagePercentAvailIntfWindow.sql trapd-configuration.xml 20:37 < purevol> err 20:37 < purevol> Linux 2.6.9-34.ELsmp (amd64) 20:37 < purevol> CentOS 20:37 < brozow> ok 20:37 -!- urandom [n=eevans@cpe-67-11-141-113.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #opennms 20:37 < purevol> where would i find that opennms_services.jar file 20:38 < brozow> /opt/OpenNMS/lib 20:38 < purevol> yeah that is what i am at 20:38 < purevol> i see that file 20:39 < purevol> [root@monicn01 lib]# jar -tvf opennms_services.jar 20:39 < purevol> -bash: jar: command not found 20:40 < brozow> do you have the java command? 20:40 < brozow> they should be in the same dir 20:40 < purevol> [root@monicn01 lib]# which java 20:41 < brozow> ok? 20:41 < purevol> there is no jar 20:41 < purevol> i have java 20:41 < brozow> so what does which java say? 20:41 < purevol> i dont have javac 20:41 < purevol> usr/bin/java 20:41 < brozow> ok.. do ls -l /usr/bin/java 20:42 < purevol> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Mar 15 04:10 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java 20:42 < brozow> and ls -l /etc/alternatives/java? 20:44 < purevol> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Mar 15 04:10 /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.4.2-gcj/bin/java 20:44 < brozow> ok... 20:45 < brozow> cat do cat /opt/OpenNMS/etc/runjava.conf 20:45 < purevol> no such file or directory 20:46 < purevol> there is a java.conf 20:46 < brozow> ok... what's in it 20:46 < purevol> cat java.conf 20:46 < purevol> usr/java/jdk1.5.0_06/bin/java 20:46 < brozow> ok 20:47 < brozow> jar should be in /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_06/bin 20:48 < purevol> so that dir + jar -tvf opennms_service.jar/ 20:49 < purevol> so what am i looking for in htere 20:50 < brozow> you said the monitors were defined in poller-configuration.xml... 20:50 < brozow> I wanted to know if the classes listed in the monitor sections were in the opennms_service.jar file 20:52 < purevol> 9533 Tue Feb 21 10:13:00 PST 2006 org/opennms/netmgt/poller/monitors/FtpMonitor.class 20:53 < brozow> and org.opennms.netmgt.poller.monitors.FtpMonitor is the name of the class in poller-configuration.xml? can you post that line? 20:54 < purevol> that was from the opennms_services.jar file 20:54 < brozow> good... I just wanted to make sure the poller-configuration.xml matched 20:54 < purevol>